No Richie on current leg of the tour

Jayster · #**6291** 06-12-2013, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jessycardy

It depends on what you mean. When you really stop and think about it for a moment, it's totally irrational and stupid to believe that Richie might be back for any of the European dates. Like, seriously. And I think Matt and company know this very well and are just looking for the attention or something. I don't know what their motives are, but it's clear that he won't be back for Europe. Sometimes statements from Jon's interviews pop up in my head and I'm like what are we even talking about here? We keep saying that we know nothing, and it's true. But at the same time, Jon told us a lot, almost everything. I know it doesn't make sense logically, but that's the situation. When you have Jon dropping the "if at all" bomb, for instance, it's healthier for everybody waiting for their show in Europe to just sit back and admit it: he won't be at our shows. There, if I did it, you can too.

Now, back to your question. It was officially announced that Richie will be absent from the rest of the European leg. Before that, the same was done for the previous leg. It's quite obvious that, WHATEVER the issue is, like, literally, WHATEVER, Richie won't be back in the middle of a tour leg. It's just not gonna happen! So, rather than "the longer he is away", I would say "the more legs of the tour he's missing". As much as it's more and more frustrating for us with each day passing by without any new info, the truth is the situation could have changed on the first date of the European leg. It didn't, and it won't until the very end of it. It's hard, but we probably won't have a clue more than we do now until July 12th... Which, by the way, is the day after his birthday. Theories and conspiracies and ramblings are welcome.

Oh, there's no chance he'll be back for Europe. Not much chance even for Australia probably.

I mean as time goes on, I fear it's probable he will officially leave the band.

Jonty · #**6292** 06-12-2013, 02:33 AM

I think he has already left. They just can't or won't tell us yet!

JackieBlue · #**6293** 06-12-2013, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mysterytrain

Yes, though I'm still unclear about whose decision it is for Richie to stay away, given that Jon said Richie is "welcome back anytime" and yet Richie says "Jon is making it difficult for me to come back." Somebody is going to have to give in order for that to happen, but if they wait too much longer, I think they'll grow tired of not getting anywhere.

I think this still goes back to the idea that there's a negotiation of some sort going on. And that the "he's welcome back anytime" is closely tied to "he's in the band until he says he's not." I think both refer to whatever "negotiations" may be going on, if that IS what is going on.

As several suggested earlier, if this is about a contractual issue, then there's no reason for Jon to change his stance. Someone said, "Jon hasn't moved the goalposts" (or words to that effect) so Richie can indeed come back any time he wants (and live by the terms of the contract) or he is going to have to be the one to say he's not in the band anymore (i.e., "I hate my brother and I'm quitting the band" maybe?). Because (and I'm TOTALLY guessing here) IF Jon fired him, then wouldn't Jon be the one breaking the contract?

But I think there's even more to a scenario like this than meets the eye. There still has to be a negotiable questions/issues up in the air, whether it is the "demands" that are being negotiated or something else, because otherwise it seems to me that it would just be:

Richie: I'm leaving.
Jon: OK - you're in breach of contract. I'll let the lawyers know.

If it was that cut and dried, wouldn't we have already heard that Richie was out and [insert name] was the new Bon Jovi guitarist?

JackieBlue · #**6294** 06-12-2013, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jessycardy

it's healthier for everybody waiting for their show in Europe to just sit back and admit it: he won't be at our shows. There, if I did it, you can too.

Awww... that nearly made me cry. Really. I'm sorry; that just sucks. (I know, 'cause I've been there, done that, cried all over that t-shirt.) I really hope you have another chance to see them all together.

(And I'm being serious as a heart attack. No sarcasm anywhere in sight, just in case anybody's wondering...)

JackieBlue · #**6295** 06-12-2013, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BJ?YesPlease

I want Richie to be MY (sugar) daddy....

"That's what I want..."

You're back! I thought you'd decided to run out and marry some other stranger you met on line.

Panda · #**6296** 06-12-2013, 02:45 AM

I really... guys ...what...it's a band. Crying over this?

JackieBlue · #**6297** 06-12-2013, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa71

Whoever is doing this really wants to shove the father of year down our throats. The pics with Ava, driving the car, having the dinner, going for coffee. It's either a dig at Heather or Jon.

Nah... I don't think it's a dig at either one. The press has been capturing these kinds of "moments" since Ava was an infant. I think it was last summer that they picked them up walking down a sidewalk in Malibu with a group of her friends - kind of like the Starbucks thing; and a few years ago LA Weekly or somesuch did a photo shoot with him and Ava. Back in late summer last year the dailymail online (?) did a spread on them going out shopping for back-to-school.

I honestly think this one really does have more to do with Father's Day coming up and with them both being in the news lately than any of the Bon Jovi drama. JMO

JackieBlue · #**6298** 06-12-2013, 02:56 AM

Sorry for the clump of posts. I just got settled in from work and had to catch up!

crashed · #**6299** 06-12-2013, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda

I really... guys ...what...it's a band. Crying over this?

My eyes are red from all the tears I've been cryi.....oh wait, that's just my hayfever.

Though, in some ways, I can understand people getting upset. Is it JUST a band? well, yeah, it should be, and on paper it is. But when you've had an emotional connection to something most of your life and it feels like that thing is starting to fall apart....

It'd be a very odd feeling for me if there was no such thing as Bon Jovi anymore.

JackieBlue · #**6300** 06-12-2013, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda

I really... guys ...what...it's a band. Crying over this?

All the way home from Philly, Panda. And that was just over 1/4 of the band.

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