Official European 2019 tourdates (Check 1st post for updates)

I apologize to forum members because of this non stop conflict between some forum members and me. I dont do anything random about band,I collect everything.I have everything that band did-over 200 concerts mostly proshot,audio everything,attendance per every tour,solo project from every band member and audio and videos from them too and so on. So when I claim something I dont need to go detail like Seb to convince others I am smart and know everything,I have numbers,collection that most of you dont have.
Belgium and Holland are,believe me or not,at the bottom in Europe for the band when attendance is subject,they earned more money because og high prices there and they are not big markets for any band,just a one or two date to tour and go by.

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Because, like I just said, due to a **** up in 2010 with promoters deals well through and the market was ignored. Still, to use your own argument. If Eastern Europe is such a great place, why didn't they come back to Croatia and Bulgaria?


Yes, it is about the money first. If there's money to be made promoters are willing to invest as the band will get their fee. If the band won't get their fee a show won't take place.

As for audiences being better, maybe. I don't really care. This is your Balkan pride, I reckon. It doesn't really matter for me nor does it for Bon Jovi.

You keep trying to push your own agenda by making up facts and ignoring other random things just so you can validate your idea on how there should be more shows in Eastern Europe.

No, you just said a big market is France.

No, they're not. Like I just said, big markets are those with steady income. As of now, Norway's become a big market. Last tour they did 2 shows there in front of 45.000 people and made 6 million. They'd have to play in front of 90.000 people in Eastern Europe to make the same money.

Yeah, I would also like to apologize. Seeing as to how the size of your "collection" matters, I have a far bigger "collection" than rokenrola so forgive me for trying to stick to the facts when some delusioned poster like rokenrola spouts off bullshit and then feels the need to attack users whenever he's proven wrong. Please forgive me for this.

No, they're not. For someone who "has everything" I reckon you ought to look at your attendance list just one more time.

But still, again, for the third time, attendance figures don't really matter when the final gross per show is the same.

What do you think costs more? Travelling your stage 3.000 kilometers for 3 shows or traveling your stage 1.000 kilometers for 3 shows? Driving an entire production to Eastern Europe takes 2 days. That's 2 days you'd have to pay a crew while they're essentially not doing much but travelling. You completely ignore logistics.

But again, I apologize for "trying to prove I am smart".

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Well... I’m not a big fan of you rokenrola and Supersonic, to be honest with you.

Dublin night 2 is on sale right now. 16th of June.

Weird there was no announcement before that, unless I didn't see it anywhere

Went on sale right after night one was sold out.

Firstly, while you may be right about attendances being down compared to other European nations, that's because the only ones higher are much bigger markets like the UK and Germany. The truth is Holland and Belgium have been good to Bon Jovi for small countries. When touring Europe, the band knows it will shift X amount of tickets each time and sure, make bank.

Those guaruntees do not exist in other countries, although admittedly the only way to build that base would be by touring. Your argument should be for adding shows in Eastern Europe alongside existing shows and not replacing any. That would be fair enough as it is arguably a market that's open.

Secondly, don't take the debate so seriously. Do you know where you are? This is a forum talking about Bon Jovi. None of this shit matters. Whether you're right or wrong is hardly important so move on or continue arguing, but don't get offended.

I am glad you have your collection too, it seems you need it.

I am genuinely shocked the way the tickets are selling in the UK.

I was at Sunderland 6 years ago and they were giving tickets away for gold circle

I have one golden circle ticket for Werchter for sale for below face value, PM me if interested.