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Geez, when will you stop whining about how Romania got a show while Greece did not? You behave as if you were green with envy about that, which is far from cool. Plus, all the rant about how Bucharest is selling poorly while an Athens show would be an instant sellout. First, you don't know that. Second, you got a Bon Jovi show in 2011 and it was FAR from sold out. So stop whining for God's sake, it's getting really annoying. I myself would rather have a Bon Jovi show in my homeland Bulgaria than having to travel abroad but I am not making an issue out of it. I'm just happy to see that my favorite band is coming to the Balkans again so I have a financially feasible opportunity to see them again.

Aloha !

I don't think you understood his point. He's not ranting about Greece, he's just saying some venue selections have been poor as other markets, like Athens but Milan as well, would've shifted more tickets. It's not whining, it's just pointing out what to him is obvious.

Now as for not making an issue; You've made an issue about the stage and has had to mention Jon calling the stage after Sofia. You lot are all the same with your Balkan pride.

Everyone's got their pet peeves, there's no need to attack someone for it. I've no idea why Panos deserves the rant you gave him. Lay it down.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

True, I had a gripe with the stage they'll potentionally use in Romania and I did share it once or twice. I also said I made peace with whatever stage they use in a reply to you, didn't I? Panos has been criticizing the choice for a Bucharest show ever since it was announced. Now you seem to agree with him on how an Athens show would shift more tickets and I honestly have no idea how you know that for sure.

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Aloha !

Sure you did. I've still no idea why what Panos says bothers you that much though.

But for argument's sake and to back up my claim:

Both Greece and Romania got their first Bon Jovi show ever yet tickets for Greece did a lot better while the unemployment rate was twice as high. Selling 60.000 tickets in a country in financial crisis with 1 in 6 adults being unemployed is impressive, especially when it put the show in Athens among the best visited and most profitable shows ever. The band rarely plays in front of over 60.000 people in one ngiht.

Further on, just for comparisons sake; The average ticket price for Greece was 110 Euro. The average ticket price for Bucharest was 75 Euro. Yet the band sold roughly 7.000 more tickets in Athens, an increase of roughly 12%. That's 7.000 tickets with a higher average ticket price, meaning a bigger profit by a large margin. Would the band have shifted the same amount of tickets in both markets the band would've made 1.800.000 Euro more in Athens. That's nothing to sneeze it. They'd only have to sell 36.000 tickets to make the same amount of money they did in Bucharest.

There's 2 reasons to believe why a show in Athens would do better. There's another side of the coin though. The opposite argument would be saying the crisis in Greece is still going while things in Romania have mostly gone back to what they were like before the crisis. Still, things in Greece are slowly picking up. I don't think Bon Jovi is solely to blame for this though, promoters make odd choices all the time.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I've seen Bon Jovi in Athens, I've seen Bon Jovi in Sofia and I'll see Bon Jovi in Bucharest. I don't care where the show is. If there was a concert in Italy, I'd go there as well.

I agree with Seb 100% and covered me on every single point I could make but the only thing he didn't mention and that's probably because he didn't know about it is that in Greece, Bon Jovi are pretty popular and share a pretty strong fan base. From casuals to die hards, people love Bon Jovi and would definitely go to see them play. A great example of that are the multiple trips organized for the show in Bucharest. There were also multiple trips organized for the concert in Sofia as well, if you seek for pictures you'll spot many Greek flags in the crowd, especially at DC and GC.



I guess that's how a stadium far from sold out looks like then I, also, remember the band mentioning the show in Greece in multiple interviews afterwards and how they were impressed.

Anyway, a concert in Greece would make more sense than in Romania for the following simple reasons:

• It sold great when the tickets were pretty expensive. Imagine now that the prices are significantly lower.
• Bon Jovi didn't visit Greece since 2011 and people are hungry for another Bon Jovi concert.
• And the most important of all: Tourists. Athens, especially during the summer, is overcrowded by tourists. People could easily combine a Bon Jovi concert with their holidays. A concert in the heart of July. Well...
• Bon Jovi had to face Metallica and Ed Sheeran in Bucharest. Both concerts were almost an instant sold out. We are only few weeks away from the concert in Bucharest and the tickets ain't moving.

Anyway, I don't complain cause Bon Jovi ain't coming to Greece. Springsteen hasn't return in Greece since 1988 and probably never will. I'm just saying that Bucharest wasn't a smart choice for them. I'd rather see them in Belgrade where they never played before. It would make more sense and probably sell better.

The Greek economy is doing better compared to 2011 yet again Bon Jovi ticket pricing is significantly lower than it was in 2011 so that would be another factor to consider imo.

do we know how the dublin shows are selling?

I think first night was a sold out so they were forced to add an extra date or am I wrong?

That was what I was guessing but hadn't heard anything official. Was wondering if the 2nd night had sold too or whether we were likely to get reduced priced tickets for it as well.