Official February 10, 2013, Verizon Center, Washington D.C thread

They are relying on the wrong post 2000 songs. Loading the set up with newer tracks is fair enough, but they are neglecting a whole lot of quality tracks and hit singles that would go down well with diehards and casual fans alike.

True. Out of the LH songs, LH is the only one I'd really keep. I'm not fond of the other ones being played. I'd rather hear Summertime or Any Other Day then those. I'd rather hear a few more off Crush and HAND and maybe Bounce then a would really anything of TC and LH other than the ones I mentioned up there.

Yeah. That's spot on. A set to please both sides isn't too much to ask for.

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Bon Jovi are bigger in North America right now, and that's why they've got the number 1 tour etc. They make more money per ticket over there compared to anywhere else.

However, compare this to the nineties, where Bon Jovi were capable of playing in front of roughly 100.000 people in Brazil to 2010 where they played in front of 70.000 people it's fair to say their fanbase has shrunk a lot. Especially when considering it'd been 15 years since the band had actually played Brazil.

The same goes for pretty much everywhere. They used to be huge in Japan, now they struggle to fill Tokyo Dome twice. It's the same everywhere apart from the U.S.A. Germany used to get 6 shows and they all sold out with ease. In 2011 5 shows were planned but the idea for a 5th show was dropped due to lack of demand. There isn't a place where they didn't use to sell more tickets in the past apart from North America.

It's all great how Bon Jovi are having those number 1 singles, but the people getting that stuff to number 1 aren't the people that buy the concert tickets. They focus on 16 year olds with the music yet expect 20-40 year olds to buy the ticket. It hasn't done them any favours lately because globally the band has never been this small. And yes, that's despite all the stuff you hear about sold out this and sold out that.

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The gig in Rio was only 60% full ...

He is saying that charting figures are more relevant today as they show how Jovi have done against their competition relative to the amount of total records sold in a given year since the demise of the record industry.

I was actually addressing anyone who behaves in this manner. That's nice that you are mostly positive, but name calling won't be tolerated.

This was about the delivery of the songs, Jon being stationary while performing these songs and it's messages like this that are turning this board into Backstage MkII.

People are being constructive, no one is throwing stones at your love for the band, it's just a differing opinion. Telling someone to go to another board is a bit boring really.

I would like to think people are hear because they love the band... even if that sometimes feels like a one-way street nowadays. So if a topic is going away from what you want to hear, be constructive as you have been in the past. Just because you're in a majority at the moment, it doesn't mean that comments like 'move on to another band' don't come across as bullying.

If you don't like it, go to another thread.

As far as Bon Jovi's popularity fan base goes, it's a variable. Tends come and go and markets fluctuate.

Bon Jovi in 1989 had more fans in the US then in 1996 because in '89 Bon Jovi was the trend. However in 1995 Bon Jovi had more fans in Europe then the US. In 2000 the US trend came back and they were able to regain popularity there.

You can't take one attendance record from one event and base Bon Jovi's fan base off of that. You would need to do a demographic on the entire world.

Economics 101..... Supply and Demand. Check it out!

'Getting out there and convincing us...' My point exactly... I hope they do this. I hope he covers every inch of that stage, selling me this new Jovi... I hope he somehow manages to convince me and all the new people he will be playing to this year that 'I'm With You', 'That's What The Water Made Me', and 'What About Now' etc are as entertaining and timeless as LOAP, BOB, BN, LIS, IB etc.

It's so easy to use the word 'nostalgia' to beat me with but it's inaccurate. I don't want nostalgia, I want song writing that is up to the standard of those songs above; I want to be entertained in the same way this band have always entertained. The comment about being relevant to a mass market audience, again, you've not read my post properly... JON wants to be relevant to a mass market audience, hence the desperate attempts to write 'worthy' tunes. I said He couldn't have both because his 'worthy' tunes are not good enough to resonate with a mass market audience. Hence, he has a choice... play his middle-of-the-road new tunes and wonder why people aren't shaking their asses like they did when he played like the world's biggest bar band or just go back to being the world's biggest bar band. Either way, he will not gain the artistic integrity he craves.

Just because I am not saying what you want to hear, don't pull out little quotes to suit your theories mate.