Official February 18, 2013, Air Canada Centre, Toronto thread

I think I'd rather have a lifeless Jon than those two fat, out of breath cretins running around unable to string two words together.

But your point that Jon is not too old is perfectly valid. He's still fit looking so there's no real excuse unless there's an underlying health issue.

That is awesome. Its really funny though, Jon leaves the stage and all of a sudden the band seems to be having fun. He looks so miserable! There is phoning it in then there is this, whats up with him ffs

You took the words out of my mouth! I would rather see Jon any day of the week, then Vince and Axl.

But I do think Jon is sick at the moment. He had more energy when he hurt his knee on the last tour, then he does now. There is more too it.

Axl's improved over the past couple of years. Vince is pretty lousy. But then again, even standing playing guitar he sounds like crap.

But yeah, the point being, Jon is in far better shape than any of those guys. Either he's sick, or he's gotten incredibly lazy.

I saw Axl (Guns N' Roses, 2011) and the voice volume was really, really low so you can't hear how much he screwed up. It was a pretty good show, still. And Bret Michaels? For god's sake, everytime that guy opens his mouth screws up another song, all the Poison songs live sound awful, even the studio re-recordings. If Jon someday is like Bret, I won't have any interest in see them live.

im loving that performance of keep the faith. Hope they keep that up for Europe! Something is defo up with Jon. Use to love the way he would marraca all the way to the end, in this clip he just chucks them down and has an attitude of 'that will do me!'.

Plus side is his voice isnt too bad
Bigger plus side is Richie who seems to be on top form and really enjoying it

Jon needs to sort whatever out unless its family issues bothering him and he is away from home. He certainly is looking a lot at autocues, even for songs he has sung for years, so there is something wrong with him.

Out of interest, what are the screens like and all this new technology. Is a good show and can you see through them from behind?

Don't know if this was posted before:
I'll Be There For You

Jon starts doing some ad-libs and it seems life is coming back into him. Also funny when Richie wants to go back to the stage and Jon all of a sudden starts a reprise. Caught him slightly off guard I guess

Solid performance of I'll Be There For You. I love when he continues with the acoustic part at the end. Jon was into this one. The band must feed off the energy of the crowd on this. I'll Be There For You should be a staple or at least rotated in more than on "night 2's."