Official March 2, 2013, BB&T Center, Sunrise thread

this just sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theories and guesses.

What I think is that Jon doesn't want to be incommodated in any way.

He doesn't want to go play his dull set and see a lot of requests of songs that people really want to hear.

He doesn't want to show up for soundcheck and rehearse a song that they didn't play yet (Just Older), even though is his birthday.

He doesn't want to move around on stage, plays his set behind his guitar and thinks that by smilling to the audience and making some moves, he is already giving them a good time.

Aloha !

If there's one thing Bon Jovi fans aren't it's a tight group.

The audience sucks because they're American, and Bon Jovi sucks because they've got a lead singer who's still not capable of putting a show together that's orientated towards the American audiences.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Obviously, something is very wrong with Jon. Having said that, I loved this vid. Richie's solos as someone commented (on the vid) are better than sex. Yes, I said that. And, David on the organ, was a nice change of pace. Tico was his usual great self. Whatever the reason for this version of KTF, I hope they perform it this way at my show, in fact, I'm praying that they do!!!

It's hard to believe that I actually used to like you. In reality, you must be a real piece of work.

This has nothing to do with the audience being Americans. As for Jon, obviously, something is very wrong with him. I just wish he would make, whatever it is, public, so that it would end all of the speculation.

"because they're American"

REALLY???

So, Seb ~ where are you from?

Probably the antarctic, because you seem to have become as cold as ice.

Sad, very sad.

Well, that's all we really have right now, isn't it?

Sigh...

Aloha !

You could've said the same without the personal attacks, you know. There's no need for it.

You also misunderstood what I said. I'm not saying Jon isn't moving around because audiences are American. I'm saying audiences suck because they're American.

Jon could fix this problem by actually trying to cater the setlist towards what an American crowd would like, but instead you get a setlist catered towards himself only, and he then gets upset when people don't really like the show.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

You say she could have left out the personal attacks, but you saying the crowd sucks because they're American, is a personal attack on me, and the rest of the people in my country. Some people are bad, but you can't stereotype an entire country of people based on a few people. It's just like people who say all Americans are fat, lazy and stupid. I'm not fat, lazy or stupid, and I know many who aren't. Most people only think of Americans what others have told them, or what they've seen on the internet or other news sources. Until you've been in America, around a lot of different types of Americans, you can't possibly know what we're like.I have no idea what other people outside America are like. I've never been outside America or even around non native Americans.

Aloha !

I agree with not being able to stereotype a whole country based upon a few people, but considering how I once was engaged to an American girl, have seen about 10 concerts there of which 6 were from Bon Jovi, and have hung out with Americans in other countries as well I think it's fair to say I know what many Americans are like.

Jovitalk is where the die hards are, but they're a very small part of an average American Bon Jovi audience. For the most part, American Bon Jovi audiences are shit, no matter where you're seated, unless you're with friends who are as big of a fan as you are, you're surrounded by idiots, really. And that's American Bon Jovi audiences. Go see another artist and chances are the balance between idiots and true fans of music is different. There was no bathroom exodus when McCartney played Philadelphia, for example. I'm also not saying Americans are shit, there's plenty of nice people in that country. Most of them are just not going to Bon Jovi shows.

I strongly advise you to go see a show up north. The difference between an audience from Toronto or New Jersey surprised me, and frankly there's not that big of a difference between a Canadian audience and a European one.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

There's no need for personal attacks, guys.