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Old 02-11-2013, 06:17 AM
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WTF man? What's the point now? He said some objective and on-topic things, and you're gonna bash him ad hominem? Really? This board is really on it's low these days. It's just going in circles...
I'm With You on that one. It was just a normal post with Rdkopper expressing his opinion and attacking no one. You can discuss that or leave it, but there's no need for constant bashing again. I though it doesn't get much lower...
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:57 AM
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I need to jump in here and make some points....

You sound very angry and I think Jon really made the best of a bad situation for everyone.

First off, I credit Jon for putting on a full show. He could have did 12 songs and been out but he hung in there and even did an encore. I also like how he brought the girl on the stage and had a good time with it.

My point is, he wasn't on auto-pilot trying to satisfy a void. He practically put on the same show he would have if the show wasn't cancelled so that does deserve some credit.

Weather reports are enough to shut down a high school football game but something of such magnitude needs more than that. There are so many other factors that go into these sorts of things (legally), you only know a fraction of them. You can't fault Jon for not cancelling. There were NO greedy intentions going on there. Jon is not that much of a dick and I'll stand by that 100%..... There are just so many “what if” factors.
What if the roads didn't close? People would be pissed. The stage was set-up on Thursday and ready to go. You just don't break down a stage and cancel due to snow. Apparently 2000 people made arrangements so it's not fair to them either. Etc Etc
It was a lose / lose situation for fans no matter what angel you take however, Jon playing for those 2000 fans made it a win / win and really made the best of a bad situation.

Now Jon will capitalize on this:

I'd bet concessions were still open and official merchandise was purchased.

Jon doing a free show could also mean a tax write-off. They rent the place from Mohegan Sun so maybe M.S. reimbursed the band and took the write off.

They will do one extra show at the end of this leg and life will go on.
You're missing the biggest point of all - The roads DID close, on Friday and it was 100% obvious to everyone (except Jon obviously), that they would not reopen until late Saturday. Had he postponed, like everyone in the world expected him to on Thursday (even Friday), none of this would have been an issue. As it is, because of his stubbornness, 3,000 trekked out in one of the worst blizzards in the area's history and put themselves in danger because it was well documented if they didn't, they'd get no refund.

The bottom line here, regardless of how it ended up, if Jon were the great guy he claims to be, if nothing else, he would have at least agreed to offer refunds right away for those that couldn't make it.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:27 AM
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Oh dang. This really really sucks. Please! What would we do without your inside information?
Why do you have to start? Come on, we know you don't like the guy, give it up. Now when/if he replies, then others are going to follow and another thread goes down the drain and the same people will come and say Rdkooper is just here to be mean and insult. Same shit, different day.
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:33 AM
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You're missing the biggest point of all - The roads DID close, on Friday and it was 100% obvious to everyone (except Jon obviously), that they would not reopen until late Saturday. Had he postponed, like everyone in the world expected him to on Thursday (even Friday), none of this would have been an issue. As it is, because of his stubbornness, 3,000 trekked out in one of the worst blizzards in the area's history and put themselves in danger because it was well documented if they didn't, they'd get no refund.

The bottom line here, regardless of how it ended up, if Jon were the great guy he claims to be, if nothing else, he would have at least agreed to offer refunds right away for those that couldn't make it.
How many times can you post the same information. We know already. Yes, asshole, wanker stupid Jon should have cancelled on Thursday or Friday but he didn't. What is the point of repeating yourself over and over. Its rescheduled. Go to the concert on 25th October, enjoy it.
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Who says you can't go home with Morgan. Different angle. Filmed right in front of Jon when he is talking to her.

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Old 02-11-2013, 03:23 PM
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Who says you can't go home with Morgan. Different angle. Filmed right in front of Jon when he is talking to her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RgLkPLPetY
The woman repeating "oh my god" and "holy shit" is annoying... actually good move from Jon, such a crappy song could be sang by a fan every show, at least something entertaining
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:28 PM
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You're missing the biggest point of all - The roads DID close, on Friday and it was 100% obvious to everyone (except Jon obviously), that they would not reopen until late Saturday. Had he postponed, like everyone in the world expected him to on Thursday (even Friday), none of this would have been an issue. As it is, because of his stubbornness, 3,000 trekked out in one of the worst blizzards in the area's history and put themselves in danger because it was well documented if they didn't, they'd get no refund.

The bottom line here, regardless of how it ended up, if Jon were the great guy he claims to be, if nothing else, he would have at least agreed to offer refunds right away for those that couldn't make it.
Let’s not get over dramatic here as far as people "risking their lives"

There were 2000 people there, not 3000..... Of those 2000 people, most if not all, had to have already been there or in the general area because the roads were closed.

And this wasn't Hurricane Sandy. It was snow. A lot of snow but something we are accustomed to. A few years ago we got blasted a few times with similar amount. The plows came out and by mid-day, the highways were fine.

And like I said prior. You can make decisions based on weather reports. As of Friday, there was practically nothing on the ground. The opposite as what was predicted. I was out at 10:00PM Friday night shoveling the inch of snow off my driveway and it wasn't even snowing anymore at that point. We got blasted during the overnight and at that point it was too late for anything.

Here is what you are missing. Not everyone drives locally. People flew in or drove a very long distance ahead of him, booked hotel rooms, took time off from work. I would also say the number was close to 2000 people. So if Jon does cancel Friday night, what do those 2000 people do? Jon would be the bad guy.

Even if Jon did make a bad decision, he is not about steeling from people. Jon does care. He is dedicated to his charity work and got very involved with the hurricane Sandy efforts. He is not about screwing people over.

Jon has been in this game for a long time and the decision that was made, good or bad, has nothing to do with financial greed.

I honestly think some people are jealous that they missed out and are not getting the same 2 for 1 deal. Those are the greedy people.
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I honestly think some people are jealous that they missed out and are not getting the same 2 for 1 deal. Those are the greedy people.
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