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Old 03-07-2006, 06:56 PM
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Last night (March 6) BON JOVI played for fans at SEATTLE, WASHINGTON'S KEY ARENA. Great show - check out the set list:

LAST MAN STANDING
YOU GIVE LOVE A BAD NAME
EVERYDAY
BORN TO BE MY BABY
STORY OF MY LIFE
I'LL SLEEP WHEN I'M DEAD
RUNAWAY
THE RADIO SAVED MY LIFE TONIGHT
I WANT TO BE LOVED
NOVOCAINE
I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU (electric version / Richie Sambora on lead vox)
I WON'T BACK DOWN (Tom Petty cover as intro to...)
HAVE A NICE DAY
WHO SAYS YOU CAN'T GO HOME
IT'S MY LIFE
BLAZE OF GLORY (acoustic)
BED OF ROSES (acoustic)
BAD MEDICINE
RAISE YOUR HANDS
LIVIN' ON A PRAYER

encores:
I'D DIE FOR YOU
WILD IN THE STREETS
KEEP THE FAITH
WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE
TREAT HER RIGHT

Now, its a few days off before the band has another concert - so rest up and we'll see you in PHOENIX on Thursday night!
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:57 PM
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Last night (March 6) BON JOVI played for fans at SEATTLE, WASHINGTON'S KEY ARENA. Great show - check out the set list:

LAST MAN STANDING
YOU GIVE LOVE A BAD NAME
EVERYDAY
BORN TO BE MY BABY
STORY OF MY LIFE
I'LL SLEEP WHEN I'M DEAD
RUNAWAY
THE RADIO SAVED MY LIFE TONIGHT
I WANT TO BE LOVED
NOVOCAINE
I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU (electric version / Richie Sambora on lead vox)
I WON'T BACK DOWN (Tom Petty cover as intro to...)
HAVE A NICE DAY
WHO SAYS YOU CAN'T GO HOME
IT'S MY LIFE
BLAZE OF GLORY (acoustic)
BED OF ROSES (acoustic)
BAD MEDICINE
RAISE YOUR HANDS
LIVIN' ON A PRAYER

encores:
I'D DIE FOR YOU
WILD IN THE STREETS
KEEP THE FAITH
WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE
TREAT HER RIGHT

Now, its a few days off before the band has another concert - so rest up and we'll see you in PHOENIX on Thursday night!
Great encore with exception of Treat Her Right.
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Replace Everyday with something that doesnt suck and thats quite the set.
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Replace Everyday with something that doesnt suck and thats quite the set.
Agreed. Mm they really like to rotate the third song of the set, I kind of like that.
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Old 03-07-2006, 08:16 PM
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Of course, I'll see them again. It was a 'good' show. Just not exceptional. Not sure I'll see them again soon, but I will eventually. Depending on what other bands tour at the same time. Mind you, I used to be one of those people that said you can't find a better show than a BJ one. I've been eating my words since..

OH, and I don't 'need' anything. I go to a show and I'll let you all know what I thought. That's about it. Not liking certain parts doesn't preclude me from never seeing a band I've loved for 20 years again.
Thank you for your reply. I'm tight when it comes to spending money on concerts. If the band doesn't blow me away then I don't go back.

So, here's a question, for you, what would have made the show go from "good" to "exceptional"?
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I love Jovi live still and will probably forever ... but they do have weak points (not enough rock for me this time not enough guitar solo -a tour too much based on just Jon ) Jon has always been a good looking guy but I feel like today this is his main obsession.... his and his fans one and only interest .... I prefered the time where Jon was less focused on his look that's for sure- and he wasn't less cute to be less focused on it but the opposite ...
oh you are right Mireille ,it's totally my thoughts
and that is the reason I prefer to have good memories of Bj in bercy (france) 2001 (for me the best Bj show ,I saw live) and not going to any shows of this tour..I saw also some shows during the crush tour in Germany
but bercy was the best..why ? very rock and hot (like french can be ,when they really like a band) not focused on Jon , not focused on the fans on stage ( some of course..but few) a real rock& roll show
it seems this period is over
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Old 03-07-2006, 09:11 PM
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Well, well, well ... what can I say that isn't too predictable?


I did not like the beginning of the show with Jon being on the other side of the stage, singing to the crowd, back to 3/4 of the audience. The moment any band takes the stage is a very very very special one and seeing the singers back doesn't make it more electrifying. Big no to that.

If Jon needs 6 people trailing him on the way back to the stage, he should consider NOT to leave the safety of the stage. It kind of makes the whole thing look silly. Yes, I realize there are some scary scary women out there in the crowd, but surely 2 bodyguards might be enough? 6? *giggles*

Longer isn't always better.

Jon is a fIne man and at 44 years old, I'd like him to be content with knowing he is quite fine. No need to make an act out of it. The lip thing and toosh shaking is a bit immature to say the least. It's always bothered me, but tonight I found it particularly disturbing. Maybe because of the age. Maybe because I like men who are a bit more 'real'. Who knows.

The first 1.5 hours was a bit drab. I believe that the majority of the audience was the casual fan, back from the 80s. The hits got the roars, the rest got some applause. They certainly didn't bring the house down with either, though.

It almost seemed that the band had played the songs a few too many times and there was no passion left in them. At one point, I was certain Jon fell asleep, .... but then he blinked.

Radio saved my life is one of my favorite newer songs and I didn't much like it tonight. It was sung in a rather monotonous and low key - it didn't have the same feeling. Most of the people around me were sitting down.

The kids on stage (fans) irritate me.

Novocaine was really good even though I don't like the song on the album.

Blaze of Glory was amazing. Sung at the sidelines - surrounded by 6 bodyguards. Nonetheless, I thought it was magical. Bed of Roses followed and Jon walked through the crowd shaking hands - great moment. Much better than the dancing with a girl on stage....

The tempo did pick up after those two songs and the crowd might have gotten a bit more into it. I sure liked it better than the first 2/3s.

It was an alright show, but there is nothing special about Bon JOvi live. I say that being quite critical. IF it wasn't Jovi, I wouldn't be so harsh on a band. I am particularly critical with BJ because they repeatedly claim to be one of the best live bands - yet, they aren't. I've thought alot about why that might be and one theory I've come up with is because the bands I have seen recently that are breathtaking are more relevant. Their songs are newer, fresher, relevant to this day and age and probaly more relevant and closer to the band as well. Cornell, who has been around for almost as long as BJ, and who I have seen taking the house down - having the crowd go insane, only sings a couple of old Soundgarden songs - everything else is new material. (but then those are homeshows for cornell - maybe there really is a difference). He also doesn't shake his toosh, nor is he preoccupied with looking cute. Jovi sing mostly old material. I do believe that the more relevant a song is to the audience and band, the more passion/drive/and electricity it conveys. I want a grown man to perform his songs, not shake his tush or make pouting lips for the oompth time. It's unnecessary. It makes it hard to take the artist seriously - especially at a certain age.
Sorry to quote this whole thing Spunk, but there were alot of points in here I wanted to reply to. I was always enjoy reading reviews of non diehards. Gives a wider spectrum of truth.

What I am going to try and say here might come out wrong, so I hope noone takes offense to it. Several of the key points that Spunk wasn't thrilled with:

1.Jon starting the show by himself at the end of the arena.
2.Jon shaking his ass.
3.Jon not being "real".
4.Bon Jovi NOT being one of the best live bands.

Those first 3 are things that any diehard are going to disagree with you on. As a fan of this band for over 20 years, I've gotten comfortable being critical of some of the things they do. However, those things ARE Jon Bon Jovi. Hey, I'm a guy (a straight one at that), but I accept and have no problem with Jon shaking his ass. Why? Because it's what a large percentage of his fans (girls) want to see. Jon starting the show at the opposite end of the arena, to me, was brilliant. I LOVED it. I think it brings anincredible amount of energy to the start of the show. Plus, it gets the back of the arena just as into the show as the front of it. As for not thinking Jon seemed real, that's open to interpretation. Having seen this band 30 some-odd times, I'd say Jon has been as "real" on the 3 times I saw him this tour, as I've ever seen him. It's just him. It's the way he is. Finally, as for Bon Jovi NOT being one of the best live bands, that's simply a matter of personal preference. I always have, and still think they are one of the tightest sounding live bands I've ever seen. I talked a while back about seeing the Foo Fighters for the first time and being blown away by Dave Grohl's energy and passion, but with the exception of them, noone else really stands out as having any more liveliness in concert. Oasis - Great band, but dead as doornails on stage. Noone ever questions them because it's "how they are".

What I'm trying to say is, no one person's opinion is any more right than another's, but how you perceive this band (like all others) all comes down to what type of fan you are. I hope some of that makes sense.
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Jon starting the show at the opposite end of the arena, to me, was brilliant. I LOVED it. I think it brings anincredible amount of energy to the start of the show. Plus, it gets the back of the arena just as into the show as the front of it. As for not thinking Jon seemed real, that's open to interpretation. Having seen this band 30 some-odd times, I'd say Jon has been as "real" on the 3 times I saw him this tour, as I've ever seen him. It's just him. It's the way he is. Finally, as for Bon Jovi NOT being one of the best live bands, that's simply a matter of personal preference. I always have, and still think they are one of the tightest sounding live bands I've ever seen.
What I'm trying to say is, no one person's opinion is any more right than another's, but how you perceive this band (like all others) all comes down to what type of fan you are. I hope some of that makes sense.
Out of the two shows I did this tour one Jon started on stage and the other he started at the back of the arena. To me it doesn't really matter where he starts... it's more about at that moment you know OMG Jon is coming out and then there he is. It's that excitement and anticipation leading up to that moment and when it happens and he actually starts singing.. forget it. Yes he has his back to the majority of the audience but it is only for one song. And most people in the front still turn around to just get a glimpse of the back of his head. His fix on people is pretty damn amazing. I have to agree with Dan I thought it was a brilliant move. For the people who don't normally see the band or who don't read the message boards when they see Jon at the back of the arena it is a MAJOR surprise for them and I think it is a great way to make even the people in the nosebleeds feel like they have a front row seat even if it's just for one song. To me starting at the back means Jon is trying to reach the fans who are in ROW ZZ and have them feel special. I also have thought that out of the three different tours I have seen them on Jon seems to be very real this time around and enjoying himself a great deal. Never once did it seem that he was on auto pilot just going through the motions like some of the shows on the Bounce tour.

I was loving thst setlist too but must agree about Everyday..it is crap. I LOVE that they did I'd Die For You and Wild in the Streets but I would have moved one of those to the third song where they used to be in the set when they were mainstays and thrown In these Arms back into the encore simply because it is a million times better than Everyday... but that's just my opinion.
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Finally, as for Bon Jovi NOT being one of the best live bands, that's simply a matter of personal preference. I always have, and still think they are one of the tightest sounding live bands I've ever seen. I talked a while back about seeing the Foo Fighters for the first time and being blown away by Dave Grohl's energy and passion, but with the exception of them, noone else really stands out as having any more liveliness in concert. Oasis - Great band, but dead as doornails on stage. Noone ever questions them because it's "how they are".
For BJ, I think the 'lively performer' is just Jon. Richie doesn't run around so much (excusable given his problems with Heather) and a drummer/keyboard player can't really run around (so I discounted Tico, Dave and the other guy). And of course Hugh is just bland on stage. I guess, that makes BJ like FF?
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So, here's a question, for you, what would have made the show go from "good" to "exceptional"?[/QUOTE]

That's a very hard question as the show didn't 'suck' to begin with. It just wasn't extraordinary. It's also hard because I admit to being supercritical with the band - more so than I would be seeing Coldplay for the first time, for example.

The show that was THE show for me was the second Audioslave show I saw. It'll be my benchmark for many shows to come. There were no cutsie distractions, but the focus was on the music and music alone (though Cornell is every bit as hot as Jon is and girls do go gaga over him as well). The crowd goes wild and I can tell that Cornell lives and breathes his songs. Like I said in my review, it may be because the songs are more relevant to this day and age. The crowd goes to hear the new album - whereas in a jovi show, it seems the crowd doesn't know the new album, but wants to hear SWW and NJ stuff. I don't think a band can play the same songs for 10/20 years and still live and breathe them as if they wrote them a few months ago.

As for Jon's stage present. My first reaction would be more stage movement. I keep thinking about the Live in London video and I thought it showed a lot of what made jovi exceptional. There was so much movement/jumping/back and forth. The tempo last night didn't pick up until after Blaze of Glory. Check out Green Day and you know what I mean - Billy Joe Armstrong is a whirlwind and you cannot cannot cannot get bored, even if you didn't like the songs (I think). I think Jon used to be more like BJA in that he was in constant movement, not anymore.

That's all I can think of right now.
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