Philadelphia Show?

That's possibly the most idiotic thing I've ever read.

You actually think an artist WANTS a bunch of people walking out during a song they've lovingly crafted?

That might have been the most idiotic question I ever answered due to it being the most idiotic question I ever received.

To make MONEY, absolutely! That's how they make most of their money during the tour. Merchandising!!!! It's all marketing.

You don't think Jon knows there is a halfway point where people need a break? Of course he does. He'll throw in a few boring ones so people could take a walk for twenty minutes and while they are out, they check out the stands. It all goes together my Lizard Head Friend

Sometimes, I really really hope you're just a masterful troll. Because your points are always so baffling in their logic that I really don't want to believe you're sincere.

Anyways, point is Jovi ain't fun anymore. The band has no energy, the songs they pay are garbage, and Jon's voice is embarrassing for someone who is only in his early 50s (that's not old bo). They suck. You said it yourself in another thread robbobopz, the only reason you go is to steal other people's seats and to stare at them in a desperate attempt to live vicariously through their show experience. Which is really really creepy. And also shows how boring the band itself must be, even for you.

You start out every post saying the same uncreative Troll comment each time. If I actually gave a sit about you or your existence, I'd would go back and put together one collective post showing all your bitchy troll comments...

Stealing a seat would be taking one away from someone sitting in it which is something I don't do. Walking down and standing in a lower unoccupied section after the encore is something completely different. If you say that you've never done that at any event, including sporting, you're a ****ing liar and a dork.

I will agree that these guys are not the same band they once where but it doesn't mean they are not enjoyable. The concerts I attend do have some good moments, the concerts are like one big party, and best of all, lots of pretty east-coast girls..... I was going to say bitches but that would confuse readers. As most would think "bitches" is a derogatory statement towards woman, it's also a way of describing some of the people on this board including yourself...

They make most of their money on tour from merchandise and not ticket sales? Interesting.

When it comes to business man Jon, I'm sure there are other outlets plus he most definately gets a higher cut from ticket sales. But for your average touring band, they make most of thier money off of merchandising sales and very few off ticket sales. I thought this was common knowledge?

I don't think that's accurate. The average touring band maybe but with the amount they charge for tickets, even after the crew and venue is paid, they'd make way more off ticket sales than merch.

Here is a high level overview..... Bands get paid by a promoter which is usually affiliated with their record company. It's more or less a flat rate that a band gets paid per gig / per tour so ticket sales don't really matter to them. (However, I'm sure more established bands get a percentage per ticket.) It basically works the same way with albums.

All they really have to do is show up and play. Once they start cancelling shows is when they start have issues.

Keep in mind, there is a huge overhead that goes with touring. They have to lease the venue, pay the staff, the trucks and equipment, buses, hotels, food, etc... When it's all said and done, they are not killing it like you would think. Don't get me wrong. It's more money than most of us will ever see here but it's not over the top crazy either.

This is why merchandising is so important. It adds an addition percentage to your bottom line and comes with it's own set of rules. Unfortunately, I don't know the Bon Jovi percentages.

I'm sure Jon gets a flat rate from the record label that includes an Album & Tour with additional percentges. Merchandising might be different but I'm not sure. Either way, it's another big component in the money making triangle.

At no point am I saying merch is a small amount or they don't get a huge cut of it. I'm debating what you said of the band's main profit being merch and not tickets. I really feel like its the other way around.

The idea that Jon plays songs he knows the crowd will leave for simply so they'll leave and buy beer and shirts, you have to realize how baffling that sounds.

Hasn´t he also said a few times he hates people leaving on those songs because often they are among his personal favourites?