Possible Sth American Tour

While it would give us all a warm fuzzy feeling to believe the band is touring uncommon venues because they love all fans equally, the truth is once again the almighty dollar......or in this case the weakening dollar.
The fall of the value of the US dollar against many (most?) foreign currencies, now makes it financially feasible to tour areas of the world that were skipped in recent tours.
The newer jumbo taxes in some US cities (especially big sports towns like Boston) prove a further incentive to go overseas than to stay here and make far less money for a night's work.
Dave

Yep there is some truth to that. There was a period of time here in Australia that NO big international band would tour here at all due to our dollar against the US dollar. It just wasn't financially viable.

Kat

Uhm isn't that the other way around. Its cheap to shop in the US, so purchase in American dollars from outside the US but its expensive for a US-er (person or company) to spend American dollars against low rate, for example the Australian dollar or Euro.
Or its cheaper for me to buy something online in an American shop in dollars then it is for an American to buy something online in a European shop in Euro's.
I assume European venues want euro's not dollars. Same for Australia etc

You don't get it - if they make £1 over here, it's now worth $2 there - so every penny they make OUTSIDE of the USA equates to more $ when they get home!

yeah but as far as I know that doesn't work like that, all parties invoice in local currency.

So if BJ camp makes a invoice for the gig (which includes renevues) for a particular gig it will be in dollars. There won't be a credit-invoice from the other side - even if they would it wouldn't make a difference.
However the parties invoicing for their work or service in the country for that particular gig will be invoicing their currencies. in what currency would you invoice as a photographer hired by BJ camp? (even if invoicing in dollars you would incalulate your currency losses in their)
Meaning, income dollars, costs foreign currency (after being dollars). I see it happening all the time, especcialy nowadays. Companies keep invoicing their own currencies, no matter how it get paid, it get converted somewhere between payments. Even if its a internal invoicing within BJ-camp.

If our say Aussie dollar is low against the US$ then it makes US goods more expensive for us to buy. Thus no band would tour here because the money they get paid from here when converted back to US$ its a lot less. If they charged in $US dollars then it made it way to expensive to have them here as it would of put the price way too high in Aussie dollars.

It's much better these days here as our dollar is going quite strong against the US dollar so theres not so much of a loss.


Kat

Im not quite sure how much of these theories are true. The recent Bon Jovi concerts in Australia are among the most expensive I have seen for a rock show here.

The break up of ticket prices in Sydney say, was 1/3 of the arena platinum $200, 1/3 gold $150 and 1/3 silver $100. Now that is expensive.

Compared to Iron Maiden, $150 for platinum and $100 for silver. Similar for KISS. AND the platinum areas are much smaller than at Bon Jovi, meaning you could still buy a cheaper ticket for Iron Maiden or KISS and be much much closer.

As far as I know, Bon Jovi get a fee for each show. Rumoured to be around the $1million mark. The rest goes to cover costs and obviously the promoters profit.

So if in recent years bands like Iron Maiden, KISS, Motley Crue can bring their full stage production to Australia and sell out, and make a profit, then I dont understand why Bon Jovi cant. What are the extra Bon Jovi expenses????

Bon Jovi didnt even bring their concert stage to Australia. It was just a plain black setup with a couple of screens. Not really complaining cause it was still a great show. But it leaves alot of questions unanswered.

Yes, they get a minimum but they also get a cut of the box office as well as merchandise. And everything is a cost, for example if video or lightening crew are contracted for the tour, they are paid even when there are no shows, like the break between the Aussie and US shows, the crew is still paid even though they are technically "off". So, labor is a big part of the cost, then you factor in equipment costs, transportation costs, insurance, etc. I'm not saying they make no money but the profit margin isn't near what fans think it is.

deb

I think it had to do alot with timing as well.. How many shows did those other bands have in meaning did they have to get from Perth to NZ in one day with a whole production. Had they been touring US and Canada flat out before they arrived. Did they have a world tour or were they just bringing their show down under?? I don't know the answers to that so thats why I am asking. Plus this second leg of the tour they have a new stage setup that wasn't even finished yet thats why they had the original rushed together stage for the Pru and Canada. Plus I think we were quickly slotted in before the US dates.

I think its just a big cost and a lot time wise to bring it all. Yes the tickets were expensive for our concerts.. and thats got a lot to do with demand and supply.. the promotors knew they could get those prices and they did. If they toured here on a regular basis I don't think they could of. I actually don't know why they didn't bring it.. but I bet they would say costs and time.

Kat