Richie/Orianthi Appearances

Richie's problem is that not relaxed, he always see strained and cocky, his body language betrays him.

She'll put up with it as long as he has star power that she can develop HER star power with. As you imply, she's too old (as well as too vocally generic) to go back to being a Lady-Gaga-with-a-guitar video bimbo. And if Steve Vai couldn't turn her into a fellow "serious" guitarist with a track record of her own, who can?


Of course, Orianthi hasn't been linked to either of them romantically. Gasp -- did those male chauvinist pigs refuse to help her career any further because she refused to bang them? And does that mean that if Richie can't help her, he'll either have to tell her she's not good enough OR marry her???

Looking at her IG since they started - she likes the hotel suites, vacations, house (admitted live together on radio show), beach house, Ferrari, on and on... Don't think she will get tired of that. And she has deleted quite a few things.

But wouldn't that stand to reason that her own fans aren't going to the shows they due together? That's pretty much what I'm saying. I'm not looking for this to be sold out shows and million selling albums, I mean success to the point of the tour not getting cancelled from lack of sales like in 2012.

I didn't specifically reply to your post (that's why I didn't quote it), I wrote "FYI" as in: "to all of you guys who don't know it, here's some additional info that might be of some use".

What I really meant is that what happens on the internet doesn't mean much IRL. Check Ori's videos on YT for example: millions of views but her records don't sell much and she can't really sell a show on her own : last year in Las Vegas they had to lower the ticket price but it was still not enough so Richie came to the rescue, so no, I don't think that Ori's fans are not going because Richie will show up, on the contrary, tickets don't sell unless Richie is announced as a special guest. Now she's doing 3 shows this week but she has 2 opening acts, that's a lot, is it her gig or a festival?

I think that her fanbase is not big enough in a specific area for her to sell out small venues (tonight's show is not sold out) and not dedicated enough to travel for hours to see her shows. Steve Vai and Dave Stewart tried to lauch her career but, apart from a multiplatinum record in the USA & Australia in 2009 due to the publicity surrounding "This Is It" and heavy marketing from her record company, she didn't get far. Her name is getting around thanks to YT as she explained,
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guita...etition-591439
and that's how she almost became Michael Jackson's new Jennifer Batten, but her career has failed to take off so far and I'm afraid it'll stay this way. Without Richie's support or any other rockstar's help, she'd probably be unable to be booked for shows under her own name, she's a sidekick, a working musician, not a leader.

Unless their album really sucks, I think they'll be touring like they did in 2014 (small venues and festivals) but there'll be 2 names on the tickets and posters this time. Most of the concertgoers will probably be Richie fans as in 2014, they'll need a hit song to attract new fans.

I asked the question before but nobody answered so, since you mentioned it, I'll ask it again: is there any proof that the cancellation was due to poor ticket selling or is it just a nasty rumor?

Her According To You went double platinum (multiplatinum is at least three million copies). It was a single as opposed to its album (which sold less than 500,000 copies). And the song was pre-teen Top 40 with occasional guitar riffs, not guitar-driven rock.

To me, Orianthi's tragic flaw is that she was convinced to lead with her looks: I agree that she's just an eye-candy flashy shredder for hire. She doesn't possess the instrumental "feel" that separates the great guitarists from the merely very good ones, and she's proven she doesn't have the vocal chops to carry off being a guitar-playing frontperson or co-frontperson (hence her two opening acts). Jennifer Batten, who preceded Orianthi with Michael Jackson, hasn't fared much better. But a record label thought enough of her instrumental chops to support her recording three guitar deity albums -- she's at least tried to lead with her guitar leads.

Only speculation.

Officially, the shows canceled due to voice problems (aphonic, hoarse, laryngitis...). Richie had to learn singing again for do not force both your voice.

Why didn't you quote the most important part in my sentence? It's neither honest or professional (you said you used to interview bands and write articles, right?)
Let's face the truth: without the 15 min. of celebrity she got thanks to "This Is It", Geffen Records (her then record company) wouldn't have spent one cent on marketing her current record.


True, Batten never became a successful solo artist but she was praised and respected by the male guitar community, which was a breakthrough in the 80s/90s. Guitar magazines often published articles and interviews. She was nicknamed "the female Steve Vai". The main focus was on her guitar skills, not on her looks.

To me, Ori's other tragic flaw is that she has no "style" (for lack of a better word). In several interviews she gave years before she met Richie she explained that her record company told her to play this and that and she did (NB: they tried to sell her as the new Avril Lavigne). She also explained she had never shred before she was contacted by Michael Jackson's staff to apply for the job, she learned the "Beat It" solo just for the audition. To me, it shows that she didn't know what kind of music she wanted to play, she just did what she was told to, like good session players. She backed up a lot of different artists in all kinds of music genres, in the recording studio or on a stage (like Phil X who played on "Believe", her second studio album, it's a small world!) but when it comes to her own records, she plays the kind of music she happens to be playing for others at the same time, she has no "musical personality", she tries a little bit of this and a little bit of that but she's not experimenting or breaking new grounds like Vai and Satch, she's just a basic pentatonic scale guitar player (and she's not flamboyant like Batten). In 2010/2011, when a musical actor hired her to play on his pop-rock album with his brand new band, she played pop-rock (and became his girlfriend). Then she met Richie who now wants to be seen as a blues guitarist so she spends her time saying that her roots are the blues. Hmmm....

Is this (+ steroids) the kind of stuff we shall expect from the Richie & Ori album? What about the "new sound" they're always talking about?

Your Richie tinted glasses are blinding you. I'm sorry, if it was sickness the dates would have been rescheduled. I had tickets to the Toronto show and accidentally bought 2 extra. I tried to sell them to brokers, online, nothing. I saw the seating chart and there were lots and lots and lots and lots of seats to choose from.

And the last show in LA filled out at the end because they were letting people in for free. Richie needs some serious help promotion wise.