Rock in Rio 2019

Originally Posted by rokenrola

If discussions mean that always same guys spit on the band for the last 10 years and spread negativity then this forum is useless. Not single one positive thing about work of the band since 2009. I dont mind for your negativity just like you dont have to mind for me being nagative towards you.

Originally Posted by rokenrola

When I said no one said anything positive you know who are they?
Maybe you were mostly positive but you also choose very strong words to describe work of the band. But to be constantly negative for 10+ years(not you),you must admit it is silly at least.No one said they are superb band but they are not bad also,even this tour proves that with numbers. I was at Klagenfurt show,he struggles,yes,at moment good sing then moments of bad but show overall was great,even Phil X calls it one of the best show of the tour. They are fade away slowly and for sure. Every album has good stuff,even WAN but most of that album is average,I agree with that. I express my opinion about band and opinions others about band,I dont push someone to change opinion,after all like many said here,it is discussion forum but even discussion must have some limits and rules about theme of discussion. I love a lot of bands and a lot of them are now average and different like BJ too but I have respect for all those years of their creation and I never would call them turd,garbage,karaoke singer,fake,shit and other nice names I read here daily specialy about our(supposed)favorite band.
Like I said,do it but I will do it mine and we will discussus about it.

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !



All this is coming from a person who's sole reason to login is to spit on users he disagrees with. I sign in to talk about Bon Jovi. You sign in to complain about posters here. Now who is it uselss to? Has it ever dawned on you how you're in the minority here nowadays? Pretty much everyone agrees and actually hears this band is done. Every person you've bitched about has backed it up with arguments as opposed to your "it's still good because I like it so you should like it too" argument.

You say there hasn't been any positivity since 2009? I saw 11 shows on The Circle Tour and 7 on the 2011 Live tour. If you've missed all that positivity it's really you who focusses on the negativity, not me. And it's because all those shows I've seen I feel there are no redeeming qualities about this band anymore.

I went to Milan 2013, one of the supposedly best shows of the 2013 tour. There was little in common with what I witnessed 2 years earlier. I can tell you exactly why I felt this way. Can you tell me why it is has something in common with it other than it being a few of the same goes on stage nowadays? Because the singer can't sing, the guitarists have nothing in common with Bon Jovi's guitar sound and the overal sound has changed so much you wouldn't listen to it would it not be named Bon Jovi.



But that's the thing. You don't discuss. You complain and tell others they should like it because you do. That's not how it works, and it's pretty much why you keep going 'round in circles with everyone here. Not once have you offered any argument why anyone should listen to you.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebasitaan

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

"I express my opinion about band and opinions others about band,I dont push someone to change opinion" yes you do. You're constantly telling people to stop complaining. That's exactly what you're accusing others of doing. You're not discussing, you're just telling us to always respect them for what they do and we ARE doing that but we're also being specific with the things we like and dislike.

There are parts your right about, it's silly to be negative on this board if you haven't liked the band in 20+ years if you're going into threads to slag off the band. At that point people are looking to be miserable. But it's also a community of people that want the best for the band and saw them at their heights and know when something is being phoned in.

Originally Posted by rokenrola

I am fan from 1992. Dont change anything,just be fair,no one forced you to go the show or buy music. I enjoy it,less cd but more live. To call this band finished as live act is silly,no one goes to se that kind of band and there are a lot of them,numbers dont lie no matter how Jon sing,they still atracted people on the stadiums and arenas.

Originally Posted by rokenrola

I dont tell people to stop complaing,I just wish that you guys are fair to the band and not disrespectful,that is all.

Originally Posted by rokenrola

I offer arguments but you dont like it,

Originally Posted by rokenrola

We see band totally different and that is reason to be so negative towards each other.I dont mind,be negative all the way,I give up from good behavior. I am more positive,thats me like person,you are something else.

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru

Let's talk about the setlists!
No, I'm kidding.
Okay, let's be serious. (But the setlist in Peru was not GOOD).
Whatever.
Anyway, all I hear now is "Hope is now visible" and a new song about dogs, i thought Orianthi was the cats fan.
I don't understand this world right now, but yeh I guess "Yeah, sure! I mean we're all in this together at the end of the day."
Sigh...

P.S. I really don't know where my post belong. -_-

Originally Posted by rokenrola

I dont tell people to stop complaing,I just wish that you guys are fair to the band and not disrespectful,that is all. I offer arguments but you dont like it,I dont mind Phil X sound in the band,its new,fresh but you dont like it,ok.Singing wise is all what we want to hear,it si solid to bad,I never said he is in great shape vocally. We see band totally different and that is reason to be so negative towards each other.I dont mind,be negative all the way,I give up from good behavior. I am more positive,thats me like person,you are something else.

Originally Posted by Supersonic

How about the trash can, along with all the other garbage you've posted?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !



If a band pisses all over its fanbase by offering shit record after shit record, raising ticket prices and then play shorter shows with worse musical efforts by pretty much every band member I'd say everyone has every right to complain and it's not us who are not respectful to the band, but the band not being respectful to their target audience that's made them being able to fly all over the world.



No, you don't offer arguments. Your entire case is "I like it and so should you, if you don't then leave".



No, you are negative towards everyone here. No one's bothered you with anything yet your sole motivation to post is to tell others how they're not respectufl enough towards the band according to your standards without being willing to listen and accept people see things differently than you do.

Since 2009 (which is a year you picked for reasons unknown to me) I've not once attacked someone on here for being positive. I've questioned it and have asked questions what's made a person feel that way, but I'm not prancing around and bitching here about "the guy who knows everything" because I feel so frustrated and can't back anything up by anything other than "you suck" which, in short, is pretty much all you're doing really.



How about the trash can, along with all the other garbage you've posted?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan