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Old 09-09-2015, 12:21 AM
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Here's hoping Old Joysey didn't accidentally give them additional ammunition, LOL!
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FYI, when I posted, the only article I had read was the BBC one (and I trust the BBC for not BS-ting so I considered it to be official at that very moment), then I had a look at some other press articles and blogs posted hours before my message and guess what? Great minds blahblahblah... I'm not the only one who thought about the WWBTF video but I was the only one (so far) who mentioned the TD one.
I can imagine the Chinese culture committee (or whatever it's called) spending the days watching YT videos and examining tweets and FB posts, a real dream job -not for them though!


Billboard used the same photo as the infamous Vancouver promoter -hmmm...
http://www.billboard.com/articles/bu...eled-no-reason
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Old 09-09-2015, 12:44 AM
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Jon should be able to show and talk about whatever he wants from his stage. If he wants to put the President"s face on the screens during every song, it's his prerogative.

If anyone is offended by the images, it's really the individual's problem. The songs are universal enough to be taken however you choose.

This is just the kind of stuff communist governments do. Jon should in no way, change how he goes about doing what he does because of this.
Jon said a long time ago that he wouldn't make political statements from the stage and I took him at his word.

Would you feel the same way if he had pictures of George W. Bush behind him? Or do you just feel like he should be able to have the President's face because you agree with his viewpoint?

If your goal is to "appeal to the masses" which has ALWAYS been his goal, you stay politically neutral while you're on stage. And your audience is going to be 50/50 in the USA because we're that divided.

PS: I pretty much despise them all equally, so it's not about being Democrat or Republican, it's about respecting me enough to NOT tell me how to think politically. I'm not paying you $300 to tell me how to vote.
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Macau is not China ? Is it really legally independent ?
Macau belonged to Portugal up until 1999. It's not really independent , although it is autonomous to a certain degree.
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****ing communist countries.
I hope nothing worse happens than someone over there getting fired, because the Chinese aren't fond of any form of public humiliation. This isn't like with Maroon 5 -- they were instantly smitten for saying something the Chinese government didn't like. This is a case of the Ministry of Culture not "screening" Bon Jovi thoroughly: they never should have qualified for the gig in the first place. If you think they're overreacting now, imagine what would have happened if the videos had come to light AFTER the concerts -- or even worse, DURING!


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"No Lichie Sambola, No concelt!" China Says.
What's Chinese for "Hands up who DIDN'T see that joke coming"?

The saddest part is, Dave T. MIGHT be right! If it took the Chinese government this long to find out that they never should have considered Bon Jovi, why SHOULD we be certain that they weren't expecting Richie?
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If they think that Richie's still in the band, no wonder BJ are personae non gratae in China, he clearly showed his support towards Tibet at the beginning of the year

http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/bo.../page1317.html

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Jon said a long time ago that he wouldn't make political statements from the stage and I took him at his word...it's not about being Democrat or Republican, it's about respecting me enough to NOT tell me how to think politically. I'm not paying you $300 to tell me how to vote.
I do not take a montage of photos of world leaders and significant people (i.e. Princess Diana, Mother Theresa) actively trying to make a positive change in the world as telling me how to vote or think. Obama was included as he had come off of an major election victory where "change" and "we can do better" were the keys words used. Thousands had traveled to Washington to witness the inaugural and millions more watched on TV. As with any new administration, hope was in the air.

BTW...when John went out his last election cycle to Get Out the Vote events (even if they were a part of Democratic candidate speeches), he knew that some people were coming to see him rather than the candidate and he was very clear that his message was for people to vote for whomever they believed in, just vote.
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If they think that Richie's still in the band, no wonder BJ are personae non grata in China, he clearly showed his support towards Tibet at the beginning of the year

http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/bo.../page1317.html
That's it. THAT'S IT!!!
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WSJ.com: In online discussions, some Chinese music-industry watchers speculated that the latest cancellation was linked to unspecified recent comments by Mr. Bon Jovi on the spiritual leader...
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BBC.com: ...The Communist party's Culture Ministry acted after discovering Bon Jovi...had previously tweeted about the spiritual leader...
I couldn't figure out where this was coming from. It didn't come from Jon, it came from RICHIE! THEY GOT JON CONFUSED WITH RICHIE!!!!
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That's it. THAT'S IT!!!

I couldn't figure out where this was coming from. Jon never said anything about Tibet or the Lama, RICHIE did! THEY GOT JON CONFUSED WITH RICHIE!!!!
Wo-oh-oh! Keep calm and blahblahblah!
Haven't you seen my smileys? And look closer to the other page:
1) Ori tweeted the photos on her pages, not Richie
2) Richie didn't make any "comments ... on the spiritual leader", he just posed for a photo taken by his GF.
I very much doubt that "Chinese music-industry watchers" and the Communist party's Culture Ministry bother to check an ex-band member's GF social media outlets.

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Jon never said anything about Tibet or the Lama
Are you 100% sure? It could be a tweet on the band twitter page, maybe to wish happy birthday to the Dalai Lama like the Maroon 5 guy did. Or... they got Jon confused with the Maroon 5 guy!
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