San Jose 25th April 30min live stream

Originally Posted by Sambo-Chris

I'm not surprised. Jon doesn't see the band as a band anymore but as JBJ and musicians. This just fits into this.

Originally Posted by Jovimimi

exactly - it's another slap in Richie's face .. see!! we are so happy without you - we show off how good we look without you !! TAKE THAT RICHIE SAMBORA ... sort of in between the insult and the provocative bravado of someone who NEEDS to PROVE that ALL IS FINE ..
Also it is a way to check the temperature in a quite reliable way : do they attract the same without Richie ? I won't be watching I don't want to add my participation to that demonstration of brotherhood (roll eyes)

Beside that *attitude* saying f**ck off Richie ... it is NOT going to make the tour sell better ....

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !



Don't be so overly dramatic, it's got nothing to do with slapping Richie in the face. These livestreams are planned weeks in advance, contracts are signed between broadcasters and all of that. I doubt they even knew Richie wouldn't be there when they signed the contract, and even if they did, it's Richie who got out, it wasn't Jon's decision. Should everything be on hold because the guitarist can't get his shit together?

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Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !



Don't be so overly dramatic, it's got nothing to do with slapping Richie in the face. These livestreams are planned weeks in advance, contracts are signed between broadcasters and all of that. I doubt they even knew Richie wouldn't be there when they signed the contract, and even if they did, it's Richie who got out, it wasn't Jon's decision. Should everything be on hold because the guitarist can't get his shit together?

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Could not agree more. Richie bails day of and it's Jon's fault? Everyone shouldn't stop what they're doing because the guy skips the tour, good for Jon for keeping the whole thing running.

Originally Posted by Sambo-Chris

Not true. They started to plan it when Richie already was away. Matt tweeted that they are working on a live stream not Long ago. Richie had already left the tour.

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !



Yeah, and Matt has always proven to be the most reliable and trustworthy person in the world. If I'm not mistaken, he replied to a tweet asking for a live stream, which isn't saying when they started planning this at all. And still, even if they'd have started planning after Richie left it's still up to them.

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Originally Posted by Sambo-Chris

yes. And it's up to me what I think about it.

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !



Well yeah, obviously. But it's been obvious ever from the start of this tour that you've been mad at Jon for going on with the Bon Jovi machine while Richie was doing his solo stuff. You're looking at everything with Richie coloured glasses, as opposed to giving an opinion based upon facts as opposed to a gut feeling.

The thing is though, Richie has proven time after time that he can't get his shit together, not Jon. The entire Afermath thing was just one cluster**** after the next, while Jon just keeping things going. Your first assumptions and conclusions always seems to be how it must be Jon's fault and how unfair things are for Richie, while Richie's proven to be the unreliable factor in this story, not Jon.

Don't get me wrong, I disagree with how the Bon Jovi camp handles this and think they should've postponed the tour or given refunds to those who wanted them from the minute they knew Richie wasn't going to be there, but to get all butthurt over a livestream without Richie while you don't know when the thing was planned and when Richie stepped out doesn't make much sense to me. This band hasn't functioned as a band in years, and both parties have let it come to this.

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