[TheOriginalJez]

Some people are quite easily pleased

[symbeline]

The fans that pay to see the shows are easily entertained but they are the ones keeping the band alive in 2017 so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm doing some mechanical programming tasks and I have the show playing on background which I haven't done in a while so I guess this is definitely an improvement.

I wouldn't pay to go see BJ right now though... poor setlist

Another video for Wanted

Bon Jovi Live in Santiago, Chile Sept. 14, 2017...

[BJFan99]

Originally Posted by symbeline

It was a joke... was it that bad?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Yes, it was.

[BJFan99]

Originally Posted by symbeline

I wouldn't pay to go see BJ right now though... poor setlist

Is a set that features Bed Of Roses, In These Arms, I'll Be There For You and These Days realistically poor (by post-2011 standards)?

[DryCounty]

For 2017 standard Jon sounds pretty decent. I hope he can keep it up. Props for giving some tough songs a shot, even though it's worrying how there's only 3 THINFS songs left in the set list. Not even Roller Coaster seems strange to me.

Like some has mentioned, the lack of movement is more worrying.

[symbeline]

Originally Posted by BJFan99

Is a set that features Bed Of Roses, In These Arms, I'll Be There For You and These Days realistically poor (by post-2011 standards)?

- Only three songs from the album they are promoting
- Basically only hits and the songs that are hits on Jon's mind (and nobody cares about)
- No album cuts from any era

Yeah, poor to me. Which is why I said *I* wouldn't pay. I've heard them all. There's nothing exciting that pikes my interest. Jon doesn't care about me (ie fans who appreciate crazy setlists more than once in 5 years), and I'm fine with that. I don't spend my money, I don't feel cheated. They still sell pretty well to the fans that are not like me. Win-win

[TheOriginalJez]

Originally Posted by symbeline

- Only three songs from the album they are promoting
- Basically only hits and the songs that are hits on Jon's mind (and nobody cares about)
- No album cuts from any era

Yeah, poor to me. Which is why I said *I* wouldn't pay. I've heard them all. There's nothing exciting that pikes my interest. Jon doesn't care about me (ie fans who appreciate crazy setlists more than once in 5 years), and I'm fine with that. I don't spend my money, I don't feel cheated. They still sell pretty well to the fans that are not like me. Win-win

Same as stadium shows have always been. Did THINFS sell much in Chile?

[bonjovi90]

Originally Posted by symbeline

I wouldn't pay to go see BJ right now though... poor setlist

The setlist (especially in comparison to the US tour) is actually quite decent and would be the last point I'd currently complain about.

[Thinny]

Originally Posted by symbeline

- No album cuts from any era

Raise Your Hands?
Captain Crash?

[symbeline]

Originally Posted by TheOriginalJez

Same as stadium shows have always been. Did THINFS sell much in Chile?

Nah, the ditching the album cuts trend started with the LH tour I think, whether the album sold in that place or not. The 2015 stadium tour had some wacky songs (like Radio, who the hell knows that song there?). They could throw in a couple of "rarities" and I'll give them a gold star for the effort.

I totally accept that the fans that go see BJ in 2017 want this and Jon is smart enough to give them what they want. They are his bread and butter. But I don't accept the excuses, they could do much better and cater to all fans like they've done in the recent past