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Old 11-27-2007, 03:54 PM
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And they ****ing know it hence the teletubbies. But why decide to tour every ****ing single year since 2000 beats the hell out of me
Isn't that an easy question to answer because the demand is there.

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Isn't that an easy question to answer because the demand is there.

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So for you its quantity before quality??? Demand is one thing, but if it goes to costs from quality then you run a terrible organisation. That's short-term thinking...
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:14 PM
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So for you its quantity before quality??? Demand is one thing, but if it goes to costs from quality then you run a terrible organisation. That's short-term thinking...
That's called cashing in.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:29 AM
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So for you its quantity before quality??? Demand is one thing, but if it goes to costs from quality then you run a terrible organisation. That's short-term thinking...
But, isn't demand for tickets directly related to quality, at least over an extended period of time? In your mind, the last great tour was These Days but, there have been 3 subsequent tours that have all done very well as far as number of tickets sold. Do you really think that people are willing to part with that extra disposable income for a crap live band. Maybe for one tour but not 3 going on 4 tours now.

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And they ****ing know it hence the teletubbies. But why decide to tour every ****ing single year since 2000 beats the hell out of me
And the thing is that they will prob tour in 2009 too as no doubt Crossroads 2 will be out end of 08..
The prob i have is when they play the same songs in the same order tour after tour ,saying the same things doing the same intro's and adding the same 2 for one songs like bad medicine followed by shout etc.
Honestly I dont know how Deb goes to so many shows and not feel undone(especially when they dont play much raraties)
They are a good live band and can sell out stadiums but for how long more especially with the likes of the FOO FIGHTERS showing how a live show should be done.I just wonder how long more people will fork out the big money for a mediocore shows..
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But, isn't demand for tickets directly related to quality, at least over an extended period of time? In your mind, the last great tour was These Days but, there have been 3 subsequent tours that have all done very well as far as number of tickets sold. Do you really think that people are willing to part with that extra disposable income for a crap live band. Maybe for one tour but not 3 going on 4 tours now.

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Yes I really believe that, because its with all products in all branches.

Your in the US so its hard to give examples but surely you know products that started of as quality products, became huge, didn't update their products (or didn't do that properly) while competiters did, but still selling well because of the name the products has?? But in the meantime, by years lost a lost a lot of quality because of upgrades that were missed there.... (or put in wrongly)

Its simple commerical/marketing whatever logica. It happens all over, even in music.
Bon Jovi could release a folk-album but as long as maketing is good it will still sell a few million copies, untill people realize, the short-time what I ment...

And then we haven't even discussed over-using/marketing a product wich isn't notibale untill years after, ie long term

Damn, I wish I drunk less beers and was better in English now.

Not exactly the same, but still;
If Michael Jackson would announce a tour today it would sell out in minutes, but I bet you it is a lot worse then in the 80 or 90's. The name Michael Jackson sells, just as Bon Jovi.

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Old 11-28-2007, 04:27 AM
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Yes I really believe that, because its with all products in all branches.

Your in the US so its hard to give examples but surely you know products that started of as quality products, became huge, didn't update their products (or didn't do that properly) while competiters did, but still selling well because of the name the products has?? But in the meantime, by years lost a lost a lot of quality because of upgrades that were missed there.... (or put in wrongly)

Its simple commerical/marketing whatever logica. It happens all over, even in music.
Bon Jovi could release a folk-album but as long as maketing is good it will still sell a few million copies, untill people realize, the short-time what I ment...

And then we haven't even discussed over-using/marketing a product wich isn't notibale untill years after, ie long term

Damn, I wish I drunk less beers and was better in English now.

Not exactly the same, but still;
If Michael Jackson would announce a tour today it would sell out in minutes, but I bet you it is a lot worse then in the 80 or 90's. The name Michael Jackson sells, just as Bon Jovi.
Ha ha, well, I have nothing to say since you made me laugh with the too many beers talk.

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Old 11-28-2007, 10:25 AM
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And the thing is that they will prob tour in 2009 too as no doubt Crossroads 2 will be out end of 08..
The prob i have is when they play the same songs in the same order tour after tour ,saying the same things doing the same intro's and adding the same 2 for one songs like bad medicine followed by shout etc.
Honestly I dont know how Deb goes to so many shows and not feel undone(especially when they dont play much raraties)
They are a good live band and can sell out stadiums but for how long more especially with the likes of the FOO FIGHTERS showing how a live show should be done.I just wonder how long more people will fork out the big money for a mediocore shows..
Oh, is that right? Then, I strongly wish they will tour in 2009 and do more shows in Japan….
I know why LH Japan tour is such short, only 4 shows, it’s because of currency rates……..Yes, Japanese Yen is such week…..and They are not interested in Japanese Yen anymore….
I wish I could live and have a so-so or great job in UK now…Then I could get to see more shows…….…Pond is much much stronger than US dollar………Euro is as well…..
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