The greed of JBJ

Bounce7800 · #31 11-19-2016, 11:01 AM

Not the Soul Kitchen argument again... you really need to let it go.

It's a bit of a silly thing to say "Well Jon spends X on charity but earns Y and wants to spend Z on a football team". We could all spend more on charity and less on ourselves. Plus surely the idea is not just the throw money at the SF as that isn't the point of the project.

bonjovi90 · #32 11-19-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800

Not the Soul Kitchen argument again... you really need to let it go.

It's a bit of a silly thing to say "Well Jon spends X on charity but earns Y and wants to spend Z on a football team". We could all spend more on charity and less on ourselves. Plus surely the idea is not just the throw money at the SF as that isn't the point of the project.

Agreed. Since your "Soul Kitchen incident" all you've done is come here and bitch about the same issues over and over again. Give it a rest.

faith1985 · #33 11-19-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800

Not the Soul Kitchen argument again... you really need to let it go.

It's a bit of a silly thing to say "Well Jon spends X on charity but earns Y and wants to spend Z on a football team". We could all spend more on charity and less on ourselves. Plus surely the idea is not just the throw money at the SF as that isn't the point of the project.

Jon and his wife have done a lot to promote it as a almost holy cause where it just isnt. I get that it is not about throwing money at it but again, he gets a many benefits from it on different levels. I dont know his true intentions and we are all different.

It would be a bit like being flattered for having an - in my case - exchange organisation for poor people, haveing a lot of people in my board of advisors who put more work into it, ask people to participate and take there money formy cause while I get a shit load of financial and social benefits from it and at the same time have my day job where I run a business -again with everybody around me 'working for me - family and friends and get even more money for charging high prices for my product because i know that my customers love me no matter what and hear about my charity all of the time and are even more willing to spend their money on it and in the end I get so rich that I have even richer friends who give awards because I also wanted to impress them and even more money because they know at this point I am famous and good for publicity and again, they might do the same.

And in the end i spend 90 % of my wealth on a football team and 5% and 10 hours on my community whereas my husband does a lot more and in the end I am the 'successful' one, showing up at all of the important events while I hardly do anything for the people directly UNLESS of course there is media involved.

I would feel hypocritical.

Burlhouse · #34 11-19-2016, 04:22 PM

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Jon and his wife have done a lot to promote it as a almost holy cause where it just isnt. I get that it is not about throwing money at it but again, he gets a many benefits from it on different levels. I dont know his true intentions and we are all different.

It would be a bit like being flattered for having an - in my case - exchange organisation for poor people, haveing a lot of people in my board of advisors who put more work into it, ask people to participate and take there money formy cause while I get a shit load of financial and social benefits from it and at the same time have my day job where I run a business -again with everybody around me 'working for me - family and friends and get even more money for charging high prices for my product because i know that my customers love me no matter what and hear about my charity all of the time and are even more willing to spend their money on it and in the end I get so rich that I have even richer friends who give awards because I also wanted to impress them and even more money because they know at this point I am famous and good for publicity and again, they might do the same.

And in the end i spend 90 % of my wealth on a football team and 5% and 10 hours on my community whereas my husband does a lot more and in the end I am the 'successful' one, showing up at all of the important events while I hardly do anything for the people directly UNLESS of course there is media involved.

I would feel hypocritical.

You are really coming across as very desperate to prove your point and extremely bitter.

He does acknowledge his wife's work at the SK. Whether he spends 1% of his wealth on charity or not, or spends 1% of his time on his foundation work or not, or just leveraging his fame for good, doesn't really matter, if the end result is helping others - whether it's 1% of the needy or not.

You said it yourself - we do not know his intentions or what he is thinking, so why be so judgmental and preachy?

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faith1985 · #35 11-19-2016, 05:22 PM

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You are really coming across as very desperate to prove your point and extremely bitter.

He does acknowledge his wife's work at the SK. Whether he spends 1% of his wealth on charity or not, or spends 1% of his time on his foundation work or not, or just leveraging his fame for good, doesn't really matter, if the end result is helping others - whether it's 1% of the needy or not.

You said it yourself - we do not know his intentions or what he is thinking, so why be so judgmental and preachy?

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I am not complaining that he uses his fame or how he does things because it is how the system in the US works. I am critizising the hypocricy behind it.

When you talk about dignity, respect and love and then ban people for the sole reason of 'being a fan of someone's music' and reprimand your employees for not acting accordingly and because I, in this case, complained about it, it is wrong.

Even if other people dont agree with me, I treated them with the normal amount of respect and got banned without any real reason and it makes me sick to my stomach that people put values on their wall and live the opposite.

faith1985 · #36 11-19-2016, 05:28 PM

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Agreed. Since your "Soul Kitchen incident" all you've done is come here and bitch about the same issues over and over again. Give it a rest.

So when people bitch about Jon and Richie or Jon's voice it is ok, but when someone comes along and complains about how she felt being treated, it is annoying?

LarryBJ · #37 11-19-2016, 05:29 PM

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When you talk about dignity, respect and love and then ban people for the sole reason of 'being a fan of someone's music' and reprimand your employees for not acting accordingly and because I, in this case, complained about it, it is wrong.

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liljovi93 · #38 11-19-2016, 05:36 PM

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So when people bitch about Jon and Richie or Jon's voice it is ok, but when someone comes along and complains about how she felt being treated, it is annoying?

Yeah because it's all you go on about and seriously, nobody cares about that incident you had.

At least with Richie & Jon, we have good debates.

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Burlhouse · #39 11-19-2016, 05:38 PM

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So when people bitch about Jon and Richie or Jon's voice it is ok, but when someone comes along and complains about how she felt being treated, it is annoying?

Yes because in both of the cases you mentioned, Jon is still giving us his point of view through the interviews - and it's something we're interested in because we pay for the stuff he puts out.

In your case we're only hearing your side of the story, and frankly speaking - and i am only talking about myself because i do not assume what others think - I am not interested as it's his private life away from the music.

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Captain_jovi · #40 11-19-2016, 05:40 PM

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So when people bitch about Jon and Richie or Jon's voice it is ok, but when someone comes along and complains about how she felt being treated, it is annoying?

Theres nothing wrong with complaining about either but your experience with SF has completely tainted your viewpoint on everything the band does. You bring up the band's integrity constantly when it has nothing to do with the discussion. Regardless of how you were treated, it has done loads of good for the community and to bash it because they should be doing MORE kind of shows clearly that Jon will never make you happy again.

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