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Old 12-15-2005, 08:18 AM
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So here's my review of the show :


We got there a bit late the opening act was closing their set... don't even know who they are and what they sing... I don't like missing opening acts but you can't control works hours and/or traffic.

Anyway... Bon Jovi was quick to come on stage at 8h30, opening with LMS. I must say their entrance is cool, with the giant screen coming down and then flipping back, Richie starting with the heavy riff and Jon in the back of the crowd facing the stage. I like that song but it doesn't really work as an opener, by the time they get to the second verse a lot of the crowd's excitement had already gone.
Then followed the usual beginners for this tour. Bad Name was played quite well and fast enough. BTBMB was slower than it should be, it works but imo it's a live filler, many other songs could fill that slot more efficiently.
I was surprised with the new ones, I don't like songs like Complicated or SOML, but I must say they came out live better than I expected. To be honest Jon was really good in both of them, it helped. Richie didn't seem to have that much dedication or fun though.
ISWID and Runaway came down well. ISWID is in it's right place at that time in the show.
Novocain was brilliantly played, again I don't like the album version, but they made it something more. Despite a lot people sitting down or heading for the toilets... Same for WSYCGH.
Bounce doesn't work imo, it doesn't reach it's ambitions as a rock anthem. Nore does Everyday. On the other hand, HAND blew the place up. This one works better than any of the "Life is mine so I'll live it because I'm alive" songs, including IML, which was played way too slow.

Now for the slow part... IBTFY played the way they play it on this tour is a shame. The vocals go nowhere, the guitars are absent, the feeling is gone and there's a stupid ridiculous tune in the background. The very lower low of the show.
Then, after a cool jam from Tico, Dave and Richie (mainly) Jon reappears in the middle of the crowd, half way up on the side of the stage, and the jam blends into BOG which was a quite cool new version. But then followed BOR TLFR version, it was awful from the start, but then Jon walked down through the crowd, so his concentration wasn't as much on his singing as it was on keeping going forward. I must say I find all his little games with the girls pretty boring... Once is enough but he did it at least 4 or 5 times in the show...
The end of the main set was pretty good, especially RYH. Prayer was played very slow, but Jon really made it tough on his vocals, trying hard on some high parts and succeeding for most of them.

The first encore wasn't that much interesting. WTWYA was ok and brought some sort of an interest, but Everyday killed it. The Treat Her Right was fun but it felt... I don't know, misplaced... Not that a great party song.

Encore 2 was close to great. Have A Little Faith was a nice surprise. Just Older I could have done without (like replacing it with KTF!), but SIBSN was definitely the highlight of the evening (and somehow made it up at least partly for the KTF absence). Jon was at it's best with the adlibs, the screaming and all, a lot of emotion and energy there. Brilliant. A bit sad to realise it was the first song of the night to really come and get me.

Then they pretended to leave the stage and came back for Wanted, a good one.

About the boys... First Jeff and Bobby... ?... There's nothing to say about Jeff, he was nowhere to be seen except 10 seconds on Treat Her Right. Make that 20 seconds for Bobby. It's seems he was hired so Hugh could look lively.
Hugh... He plays solid but still boring to watch.
Dave, he seemed in a good mood and did a good job, but the new stuff doesn't give him the chance to shine as much as he could and should.
Tico is still the cool hitman we know, could give a faster beat here and there though.
Richie was a disappointment in the way there was nothing special about his performance. Sure his solos were good, but they were usual. As his vocals.

So yes, Jon is the man of the match. This show was his. You could tell he was working hard on himself to make it all work, and overall he managed and had fun. He surprised me, annoyed me at times, but he wasn't laid back at all. Pity the new songs don't match his abilities as a frontman.
I prefered the overall shows I saw in Paris in 96 and 2001, but his dedication was great to see. He might not hit all the high notes, but at least he can still be hungry. I doubted about that very much before that show.

A word on the light show and stage... The giant screen is very cool, the quality is amazing. The light show behind the stage is pretty impressive too, though the originality of what is displayed fits perfectly the band's current creativity... A rose for Bed of Roses... Pills for Bad Medecine...

Overall the show was good, very good, don't get me wrong... but... The last three times I'd seen BJ I loved every minute and we'd get to the encore, I'd want to hear some more. Tonight when we reached the encores, I wanted more of what I was missing.
The new songs (from Crush to HAND) do no work at all on me, but that could be ok if the old ones did, but it's like they've worn out... I don't blame the band here, they played most of the songs how they should, it's just me, I've moved on musically and came to find Bon Jovi a superficial band. Except for SIBSN, where what I loved about this band, real emotion, finally burst through... but that just makes the disappointment even bigger.

So I'm turning that page, it was my last Bon Jovi show.


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Old 12-15-2005, 08:35 AM
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Thanks for your review. Interesting that though you liked the show that you say your done with Bon Jovi shows.

Out of curosity, whose shows do you think are better and that you will see?

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Old 12-15-2005, 10:27 AM
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Thanks for your review, I'm sorry that BJ doesn't suit you anymore but I think it says alot about you that you are self aware enough to say that it is you that has moved on when the easy way out would be to just blame the band.
I've had that happen with somebands, at onetime I couldn't get enough of their music but at some point, I just no longer connected with their music. No one was to blame, whatever I had gotten from their music was a gift, but it just didn't work for me anymore.
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:31 AM
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wow what a GREAT review very detailed very honest very *non sugar coated* ...I have not been to a show yet on the HAND tour BUT I have been to Paris 2001 so I know what you are talking about on this one....This is the first review I read which doesn't mention *it was my best show ever* (maybe because you did more than just this show ) and somehow I love your review better ..not that I am happy to read you evolve musicaly and this is your last (probably) Bon Jovi show but I can feel you are talking the truth with us (your truth of course but you don't lie I mean )

I love this long set list and I can feel that the guys (Jon ) are trying to put on a good show I'd rather have them trying less maybe and truely enjoying it more

is the auto pilot problem gone on this tour ?
You also mentionned that you don't think the "meeting the girls" that much 4 or 5 times is not necesseray ..I am thinking you might be right .... I feel like this tour is a lil too much focused on that part (contact with the show man part) ... which make the show more a one man show than a rock band concert ...

and am also very sad about Richie not being INTO the show and I'd love to know why ...what's happening to Richie ?
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Old 12-15-2005, 03:59 PM
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There are several things ponrauil said that I think also applied to the second show in Boston. Bounce and Everyday are very weak rock songs and bring the show down. Jeff and Bobby are worthless....in fact I watched Bobby for a little while in Boston and most of the time he wasn't even playing, just standing there trying to talk to people in the fanpit. Welcome to Whereever you are actually sent people home in front of me (and I had floor seats). Blaze of Glory is cool acoustically but BOR and I'll Be There For You really drained the excitement out of the crowd.
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Old 12-15-2005, 04:15 PM
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Why not make banners with: "Cut the crap, bring the rocksongs back, instead of the crappy TLFR tracks.". I'm sure Jon will have a laugh about it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa
Thanks for your review. Interesting that though you liked the show that you say your done with Bon Jovi shows.
I liked it in the way I can tell a bad BJ performance from a good one. Last night was a good one. There were maybe 20000+ people in there and they obviously had a blast, so I alone can't say Bon Jovi was crap.
But as I said, the songs don't work on me, a bit because of BJ because as good as they are they're not as good as say 10 years back (studio and live), but mostly because of myself and my own evolution.

So yeah I'm done with Bon Jovi shows. With all the artists from or visiting Montreal, I can attend 4 or 5 great shows for the same price.

What could change my mind is an amzing new album I'd be dying to hear live. Very unlikely imo.


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Out of curosity, whose shows do you think are better and that you will see?
I thought the U2 concert two weeks ago was much better. The songs were better imo and the intensity higher. As I said in the review I posted about that U2 show, it was very complete. With BJ there was too much of this or too little of that.

I also prefered (in no order) System Of a Down, Green Day, Coldplay, NOFX, Muse, Les Cowboys Fringants and even Dead Can Dance, but that one's not that comparable. To be honest, these were all first concerts.



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Old 12-15-2005, 05:02 PM
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I thought the U2 concert two weeks ago was much better. The songs were better imo and the intensity higher. As I said in the review I posted about that U2 show, it was very complete. With BJ there was too much of this or too little of that.
Pff... U2 live... I hate the edge. Yes, he has his own sound, but I do not like it. And who plays all the keyboard stuff you can hear? Just like Coldplay.
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You know, its not nice to compare your first ever concert of some band and your zilliont concert of Bon Jovi.... You are following this band in whatever they do, you saw all setlist of this tour, you have heard all songs million times, some of them live, and you just cant be "high" for that like you are "high" for your first Green Day concert... BTW they suck!
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BTW this is what i do not like about setlist!

BTBMB should be out... Everyday should be out!
KTF should be in there every night!
They should play These Days at least in every 5th show!
They should keep BOB in there!
They should not play BOR in TLFR style...
They should play one boxset song every night... Pick from Radio, Why Arent You Dead... (btw my favorite is Satellite)
They should trow in sometimes My Guitar... Homebound Train...
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