The Official December 4 Adelaide Botanic Park, Adelaide, Australia Thread

After hearing the horrifying performance of IBTFY today, I can finally say that I don't miss Always on the set lists anymore. (I haven't done so regarding These Days since Montreal, or maybe even MSG...)

Btw, it's weird how much better Jon sounds on BOR than IBTFY, even though the former is far more difficult to sing. Has anybody got any idea what might be the reason?

Mental problems (Well I am not saying Jon is crazy or something but you get it) that are enough to affect his singing.
Jon sure does suffer from self-confidence problems too sometimes judging by what I see.
I am sure he's annoyed about his voice.
It's still weird why he sounds better on BOR instead of IBTFY as you said no matter what it is. BOR

I know it sounds like I am saying bullshit but still that's what I bet on 100%.

I wonder what Jon's honest ("I sound and feel great in this 2018") answer would be in this question:
If your currently in 1993 and you knew this would be how you sound like and act like on stage (movements, etc) 2013 - 2018.
Would you be more careful about your singing, etc.

I don't think so. Jon definitely would've gotten over whatever psychological problems he had at least by the time the band got inducted into the Hall Of Fame.

I'd say it might be connected to the current placement of IBTFY on the set. Nowadays his voice is completely shot pretty much every time in the encore regardless of which song he sings, so maybe he should shorten the encore a bit and swap IBTFY back to the main set? Blood On Blood could also work as a show opener again, so he wouldn't need to strain his voice as much in the encore, having usually beaten his voice to bits during the main set already.

Also, for f*ck's sake, Jon - let David sing ITA as a full version again every now and then, let Phil sing a song (You Shook Me All Night Long or Highway To Hell would definitely drive the Aussies crazy this time as well, like they did in 2013) or whatever; just allow yourself a brief breather, if not for anything else than saving the shows from being complete train wrecks vocally...

I wonder how it would be like during concerts if Richie and Alec were still in Bon Jovi. I think Jon would be happier I guess even if Alec sometimes does mistakes.

Yes I would wanna hear David Bryan do a full electric version of ITA atleast once during a concert.

After having watched some videos from the past shows and the streams from most of today's show I'm almost certain that Jon really is suffering from some sort of anxiety disorder or depression that manifested itself in mid/late-2013 and he's not been able to break through that up until now.

But - as David said in the documentary - Jon is the guy that constantly has to prove himself and he so desperately wants to battle through this as well, though he clearly isn't enjoying it anymore.

The reason behind the small crowd was the venue. Here in Adelaide our major concert venue/sporting arena (The Adelaide Oval) is unavailable this week due to a week long sporting event starting on Thursday. Adelaide had 39,000 at the last concert here and if it was at the Oval, the crowd would have been much bigger. It was a great show though!

Looking at the official set, I really wish Dry County was called on... It would be great to see more change ups. However, does anyone know why Jon didn't play guitar at all in the encore? No acoustic for When We Were Us, I'll Be There For You, Blood on Blood or Wanted...

I've never seen Wanted played without Jon on acoustic before

Focus was on his voice, that was the reason

While I agree on Jon getting a rest at some point during the set, please please no David on ITA. I just absolutely cannot stand the way he sings (just the same as with Richie, but his voice made it special and thus magic, but David just has an OK voice IMO, which is fine for backing vocals, but just not made for the prime spot). Same goes for Phil BTW, at least in BJ.

I'm not a huge fan of his vocals either but I can live with him singing one. His voice is currently better than Jon's.

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