[faith1985]

Originally Posted by Manbou

But great that we could sort this out somewhat (?)

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Yes, of course
Again, if you liked the show, good for you! I met a woman at the bus station and we decided to rock out together at the show. The best part of the show for me was probably seeing how much she enjoyed it. She just waned to hear the songs and have fun. So who am i to judge others if they enjoy something. As I said, it wasn't all bad but just not up to the standards I was hoping for.

[Johny]

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

It was great catching up again, even if it only was for a short amount of time!

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It was!
As I said earlier, the people around you also make the show.

I'm so happy I went.


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[klaus]

Compared to all 7 BJ shows in munich it was the worst:

No spontaneity. Every word from Jon's mouth is planned (the beginning of Bad Name equals note by note and word for word, for example, the "Hall of Fame" appearance). The first time at a BJ concert (I’ve been) no built-in cover in a BJ song (Stones, Scorpions, etc). No acoustic part. No transition between the songs, with the first songs even the light went out between the songs. And then those songs like Wanted or I'll be there for you who are simply worlds worse without Richie. Finally Jons voice...


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[jovifan93]

Back from Munich. Had a great time! Yes, Jon's vocal problems are listenable being there in person, and yes, sometimes I felt really bad for him. But then again, there were songs where he really surprised me. And to me, it seemed that Jon genuinely enjoyed being there and had fun during the night (we did our best to keep him happy and seemed to have succeeded ).

Was it the best show ever? By no means. But the set flowed very well, and judging from the audience and energy of Jon and the band, it was up there in my top 5-10 shows. If you try to just enjoy it for what it is, you can have a really great time, and if this was the last time seeing my favorite band, I won't regret it.

[jovifan93]

Originally Posted by faith1985

I did not take it personally and I also don't mind anyone enjoying something I don't. But every article basically says the same. My paragraph was from the article I posted. It is full of cliches that it makes the concert seem more like a joke. I did not mean to say the concert was a complete joke (I did not even use the word joke) but these article (which for me are not too far from the truth) sound like a parody (some of it) to me.

Being a German myself, I also don't get how you can read that into the paragraph you posted. But go ahead, it's a free country, and we all know your problems with Jon and the band...

[faith1985]

Originally Posted by jovifan93

Being a German myself, I also don't get how you can read that into the paragraph you posted. But go ahead, it's a free country, and we all know your problems with Jon and the band...

You don't know the problems I have with Jon one bit.....

Er bläst Küsschen in die Menge, zwinkert seinen Edelfans in der ersten Reihe zu und schunkelt schattenboxend über die Bühne, wenn er nicht das Publikum zur Bewegung animiert. Wenn das mal keinen Muskelkater gibt

He is blowing kisses into the crowd, he is winking at his elite fans in the first row and is swaying shadow-boxing around the stage, when he does not animate the crowd to move - if that does not give you sore muscles

that does sound like a typical tabloid joke to me. And, btw I did not say the concert was a joke. As you said, it is a free country and fortunately, we are all allowed to have different opinions about the same things. I know I sound like a broken record but this compared to wembley was like seeing different band (If you go to the Wembley thread, you see that I thought Wembley was quite amazing.)

In the end, discussing these things is pretty pointless. everybody is different and has different perceptions. You see what you want to see and what you are capable of. bonjovi90 did not enjoy the show that much either, same goes for many other people here.

[jovifan93]

Originally Posted by faith1985

You don't know the problems I have with Jon one bit.....

Er bläst Küsschen in die Menge, zwinkert seinen Edelfans in der ersten Reihe zu und schunkelt schattenboxend über die Bühne, wenn er nicht das Publikum zur Bewegung animiert. Wenn das mal keinen Muskelkater gibt

He is blowing kisses into the crowd, he is winking at his elite fans in the first row and is swaying shadow-boxing around the stage, when he does not animate the crowd to move - if that does not give you sore muscles

that does sound like a typical tabloid joke to me. And, btw I did not say the concert was a joke. As you said, it is a free country and fortunately, we are all allowed to have different opinions about the same things

I read your posts over the years, so I know a little bit. Maybe not the whole story, but still

Yes, of course that's all tabloid junk, but it's not diminishing the concert in my opinion. Yes, it doesn't focus on the music, but more on what Jon does, but it's always been that way with BJ (though it used to be more about Jon's hair and looks in general )

[Neurotica80]

Originally Posted by klaus

Compared to all 7 BJ shows in munich it was the worst:

No spontaneity. Every word from Jon's mouth is planned (the beginning of Bad Name equals note by note and word for word, for example, the "Hall of Fame" appearance). The first time at a BJ concert (I’ve been) no built-in cover in a BJ song (Stones, Scorpions, etc). No acoustic part. No transition between the songs, with the first songs even the light went out between the songs. And then those songs like Wanted or I'll be there for you who are simply worlds worse without Richie. Finally Jons voice...


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Cannot argue with any of those points. I was expecting a lot more spontaneity at Wembley. They are taking it for granted that they will carry on selling out these huge venues IMO. Certainly expected a lot more from Jon than "like what you've done with the place" esp as they were supposed to play Wembley on the HAND tour but it got moved to MK.

[Elvistico]

Originally Posted by klaus

Compared to all 7 BJ shows in munich it was the worst:

No spontaneity. Every word from Jon's mouth is planned (the beginning of Bad Name equals note by note and word for word, for example, the "Hall of Fame" appearance). The first time at a BJ concert (I’ve been) no built-in cover in a BJ song (Stones, Scorpions, etc). No acoustic part. No transition between the songs, with the first songs even the light went out between the songs. And then those songs like Wanted or I'll be there for you who are simply worlds worse without Richie. Finally Jons voice...


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I can not agree on this. I've seen 3 shows so far of the european tour and will see 1 more. Sure, the show is rehearsed, Jon's voice isn't in the shape of 2013 anymore, let alone 2003 and miles away from 1995 BUT :

The show they put on is awesome. Even if it is all planned and everything during the songs is planned, they still put on a great show. The band sounds super tight and I haven't seen Jon in a better mood ever. He works the stage, he interacts with the crowd and at the end of the night he is drained.

I was thinking most press/newspapers would be very critical / synical about Bon Jovi in 2019. I thougth the reviews would get 1 or 2 stars but they are getting 4 and 5 star reviews and I can understand why.

I go and see a lot of bands. I've seen Bon Jovi over 35 times between 1993 and today and I can honestly say that the show's I've seen this tour are still really really good.

I agree on the vocal part and clearly the setlist are shorter then before ( 22 songs mostly) as opposed to 25 ( and ocasionally 27 /28 ). But, I prefere a band that knows it's limits - more ain't always better. Jon probably knows he can go at 100% for 22 songs and not more.

And I agree he does not sound perfect but he clearly gives it a 100% and THAT, I like. The show might be standard, vanilla, routine, but what they do comes close to perfection and Jon is clearly doing what he does best. He's being a great frontman. I can imagine his vocal coach or whatever coach is advising him to not go over certain limits if he wants to be able to continu his career for a few more years.

And no, I am not the kind of fan who thinks all the band does is fantastic. I have been bitching on many things, but when I see the band live, I still get amazed. The only competition they have is their own past.

[SAMbongiovi]

Originally Posted by Elvistico

I can not agree on this. I've seen 3 shows so far of the european tour and will see 1 more. Sure, the show is rehearsed, Jon's voice isn't in the shape of 2013 anymore, let alone 2003 and miles away from 1995 BUT :



The show they put on is awesome. Even if it is all planned and everything during the songs is planned, they still put on a great show. The band sounds super tight and I haven't seen Jon in a better mood ever. He works the stage, he interacts with the crowd and at the end of the night he is drained.



I was thinking most press/newspapers would be very critical / synical about Bon Jovi in 2019. I thougth the reviews would get 1 or 2 stars but they are getting 4 and 5 star reviews and I can understand why.



I go and see a lot of bands. I've seen Bon Jovi over 35 times between 1993 and today and I can honestly say that the show's I've seen this tour are still really really good.



I agree on the vocal part and clearly the setlist are shorter then before ( 22 songs mostly) as opposed to 25 ( and ocasionally 27 /28 ). But, I prefere a band that knows it's limits - more ain't always better. Jon probably knows he can go at 100% for 22 songs and not more.



And I agree he does not sound perfect but he clearly gives it a 100% and THAT, I like. The show might be standard, vanilla, routine, but what they do comes close to perfection and Jon is clearly doing what he does best. He's being a great frontman. I can imagine his vocal coach or whatever coach is advising him to not go over certain limits if he wants to be able to continu his career for a few more years.



And no, I am not the kind of fan who thinks all the band does is fantastic. I have been bitching on many things, but when I see the band live, I still get amazed. The only competition they have is their own past.

That could have been exactly my words! Thanks for posting it. I totally agree with you in any part of your review.


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