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Old 06-24-2019, 07:01 AM
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The Official July 3 Merkur Spiel-Arena, Düsseldorf, Germany Thread

Setlists, Predictions, Videos, Disappointments, Complaints...

The last time the band played in Düsseldorf was on July 13, 2011, during The Circle Tour. The setlist was as follows:

01. Happy Now
02. You Give Love a Bad Name
03. Born to Be My Baby
04. We Weren't Born to Follow
05. Superman Tonight
06. It's My Life
07. The More Things Change
08. We Got it Going on
09. Captain Crash & the Beauty Queen From Mars
10. Bad Medicine [w/ Mercy (1st Attempt) and Roadhouse Blues snippets]
11. When We Were Beautiful
12. Mercy [Duffy Cover, 2nd Attempt]
13. What Do You Got?
14. I'll Be There For You
15. Mercy [Duffy Cover, 3rd Attempt]
16. Who Says You Can't Go Home
17. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
18. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
19. Have a Nice Day
20. Keep the Faith
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21. In These Arms
22. Wanted Dead or Alive
23. Blood on Blood
24. Livin' on a Prayer

Anyone know what the deal with Mercy was at this show?


2019 Setlist:

1. This House is Not For Sale
2. Raise Your Hands
3. You Give Love a Bad Name
4. Born to Be My Baby
5. Whole Lot of Leavin'
6. Lost Highway
7. Runaway
8. We Weren't Born to Follow
9. Have a Nice Day
10. Keep the Faith
11. Amen
12. Bed of Roses
13. Blood on Blood
14. It's My Life
15. We Don't Run
16. Wanted Dead or Alive
17. Lay Your Hands on Me
18. Captain Crash & the Beauty Queen From Mars
19. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
20. Bad Medicine
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21. I'll Be There For You
22. Livin' on a Prayer

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Old 06-24-2019, 08:16 AM
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Anyone know what the deal with Mercy was at this show?
Yes. Fans in the front had several banners requesting Mercy and Jon thought it'd be fun to give it a go. He could never get it right as he'd clearly played and sung the song for the last time in 2008. He gave it several shots, asked the band for help and though it was probably great fun for those who requested it this gave the show a weird vibe, especially considering how it wasn't a very good concert to begin with. They started out alright but as the show went on it started to drag with the many false starts of Mercy, What Do You Got and When We Were Beautiful in the main set. It doesn't look bad on paper and it wasn't terrible by any means. It just wasn't very good either.

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Old 06-24-2019, 08:33 AM
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Dusseldorf 2011 and RIR 2013 were the two worst Bon Jovi shows I’ve ever been to. This one was very boring and Jon was very off vocally. The show never took off, and the Mercy drama was very annoying..
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Big gaps between shows. After Coventry sounds like they need it


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I read today that Jon is with family on vacation in Croatia,Cavtat so he will rest good and be ready for new shows.
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This will be a warm-up show for Friday. Jon always lays the focus on the last German show and this time it even collides with his favourite stadium. We used to have that in 2001, 2003 and 2006 and they were all pretty good.
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This one might be good. The longer break will only do good for Jon and they tend to really like playing Germany, there have been quite a lot of memorable shows in Germany.
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This one might be good. The longer break will only do good for Jon and they tend to really like playing Germany, there have been quite a lot of memorable shows in Germany.
Except the last time they played there. I still remember the faces of Thierry, Erik, Seb, Kathleen, Paul and so on who had all travelled there just to witness it turn into a complete trainwreck
However, 2006 was a great one!
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This one might be good. The longer break will only do good for Jon and they tend to really like playing Germany, there have been quite a lot of memorable shows in Germany.
I hope that will be the case; but it seems like Jon has been improving, on vocals and as a frontman, as the tour progressed. Based on videos, and comments from those who attended the shows, I had about reached the conclusion that maybe Jon and the band just needed to settle into the groove, and that the first few shows weren't as good because they were still warming up, so to speak. So my only concern with a long break is that it's going to be like starting all over again. (Pun acknowledged, but not intended.)
On the other hand, having more than one or two days off may help Tico. It's possible that he picked up a bug or something, right before this leg started, and just didn't have time to fully recover before Moscow. That may be wishful thinking; but something like that could explain why he suddenly seems so tired and a little off his game. If that's the case, the rest would definitely be good for him.

It's not that I disagree with those who are concerned that Tico's struggles on this leg may be due to him getting older, because aging could certainly play a part. But unless there's something else going on, I think that's something we would notice more gradually, not virtually overnight. Maybe others remember it differently; but I don't recall any discussions from last year about anything being off in his performance, even towards the end of the last leg. That was only 6 months ago; and speaking as someone who's getting older herself, age-related changes don't typically manifest themselves that quickly.
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It's not that I disagree with those who are concerned that Tico's struggles on this leg may be due to him getting older, because aging could certainly play a part. But unless there's something else going on, I think that's something we would notice more gradually, not virtually overnight. Maybe others remember it differently; but I don't recall any discussions from last year about anything being off in his performance, even towards the end of the last leg. That was only 6 months ago; and speaking as someone who's getting older herself, age-related changes don't typically manifest themselves that quickly.

I've always kept a keen eye on the hitman and I don't think he's quite enjoying himself anymore and the pace may be getting to him.

He's such a hard hitter that he will inevitably not be able to keep up with the performances as he ages. I'm pretty sure Ticos_stick said the same thing earlier.

Springsteen's drummer Max is 70 and can easily go for 3+ hours but his style has never been overly heavy so he can keep up without becoming exhausted. The same can be said for The Stones, Fleetwood Mac etc

He's also been playing outdoors in a wet and chilly European summer with lots of travelling which definitely wouldn't have helped his performances.

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