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The problem is that Bon Jovi used to do pretty much the same in Europe in the past, hence fans getting used to and expecting it a bit.
I don't think that expectation is necessarily fair though
Just because they used to do something doesn't mean, in my opinion, they are under any obligation to do so now.
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Bruce is the exception not the rule. Just look at Metallica atm, playing fairly static sets, as are several others
Erm, not really.

Out of Metallica's 18 song setlist only 13 songs get played every night. Other stuff is on constant rotation. They've done roughly 25 shows this year and played over 45 different songs. Bon Jovi have done about 100 shows in the last 3 years and have yet to hit that number despite playing more songs every night.

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I don't think that expectation is necessarily fair though
Just because they used to do something doesn't mean, in my opinion, they are under any obligation to do so now.
They're not, but there's no reason why they should change it. If they don't want, then they should just shut up in terms of "changing setlist on a nightly basis" (David and Tico both in 2016) or "digging deep into the back catalogue, doing songs we haven't done for a long time" (Jon in 2017).
Don't have people getting their expectations up when you're not willing to follow your own words.
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They're not, but there's no reason why they should change it. If they don't want, then they should just shut up in terms of "changing setlist on a nightly basis" (David and Tico both in 2016) or "digging deep into the back catalogue, doing songs we haven't done for a long time" (Jon in 2017).
Don't have people getting their expectations up when you're not willing to follow your own words.
That is true they should certainly be genuine about it
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The core of the set never changes from tour to tour either which doesn’t help.
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How many people are actually going to both shows? My guess is not more than 300. That would be 1% of the total crowd. Bands do not make setlists for the 1%

All bands are sticking to a fixed setlist during a tour with a few open spots to swap some songs here en there. I have seen the band this tour in Tallinn and in Holland. 6 songs were different. That's not bad at all.
I hate this argument. Changing up the setlists is what this band was known for. It's why fans used to go to multiple shows every tour. It's why these PBP threads used to be so popular during a show - we never knew what song was coming next. Jon can't pull off a majority of the rarities like he used to, but he can certainly rotate songs through setlists more. With the way they are now, there really is no reason to go to multiple shows or even bother following the PBP.

The band also needs to stop bragging about how they have 75 songs rehearsed and that they never play the same setlist twice.
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He ditched the cigarettes for a while in late 2009/early 2010 (if I remember correctly), but allegedly was seen smoking again by some fans during the filming breaks of the movie New Year's Eve. Also, around the release of WAN a popular Finnish music magazine interviewed Jon and he was smoking in the pictures of the article. I don't know if he's smoking nowadays or not, though.
Thank you. I just hope Jon has stopped smoking. Or what's left of his vocals will soon go.
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Btw, where the hell are videos of These Days from last night? Didn't anyone film it?
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I hate this argument. Changing up the setlists is what this band was known for. It's why fans used to go to multiple shows every tour. It's why these PBP threads used to be so popular during a show - we never knew what song was coming next. Jon can't pull off a majority of the rarities like he used to, but he can certainly rotate songs through setlists more. With the way they are now, there really is no reason to go to multiple shows or even bother following the PBP.



The band also needs to stop bragging about how they have 75 songs rehearsed and that they never play the same setlist twice.
Spot on. Thank you!


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I hate this argument. Changing up the setlists is what this band was known for. It's why fans used to go to multiple shows every tour. It's why these PBP threads used to be so popular during a show - we never knew what song was coming next. Jon can't pull off a majority of the rarities like he used to, but he can certainly rotate songs through setlists more. With the way they are now, there really is no reason to go to multiple shows or even bother following the PBP.

The band also needs to stop bragging about how they have 75 songs rehearsed and that they never play the same setlist twice.
It’s been a long time since they mixed up the set lists - probably since the 90’s!😒
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