The OFFICIAL T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada 3/17/2018 thread

Good, I can now finally retire!

Seriously, that was meh. I mean, it's OK, not amazing. He goes with his 120% on the chorus and somewhat hits the notes and goes back to his normal levels of efforts and struggles through the ridiculously easy verses. I can compare it to that New Year's Thank You For Loving Me.

Is it a better performance than most songs on the setlist? Yes. Is the final result still satisfactory? Not for me. I would not play this live performance, the way I do with many pre-2013 performances. And any 2013 performance that was considered crappy by then-standards, is still miles better.

But hey, enjoy it if this satisfies you. I'll keep enjoying being the hater.

Have they lowered the key on BOR even further?

Yeah he moves again, but I don't hear the great improvements everyone hear is rambling about. It was ok at parts.

Though I think that some users here are a bit over the edge, going from trashing the band one night to celebrating Jon like nothing else hear for a few good notes. JT has always been insane, but it's reaching new heights...

Kind of agree with this. There will be some good, some bad, and some in between. I don’t think any of it necessarily means he’s back or he’s lost it for good. I’m going to try to enjoy the ride.

I will say this: don’t tell the people he walked through during Bed Of Roses that his vocals were “off.” They looked like they were having the freaking time of their lives.


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Bor, prayer, etc are the same step, key whatever as in 1995 (1 half step lower from original, means half a note)

I haven't checked ITA though.

Jon tried the same thing he did in Sao Paulo, down to the timing of the "bed of nails" part; except he sounded a lot thinner this time.

No, same key as always since 1995. One could argue they should've transposed some songs even further since 2015.

I do agree on the general status of these topics. Jon hits a semi-high note and some folks lose their shit and forget he struggled mightily on another 15 songs that same night.

I measured the long and high "Bed of nails" part.
If i remember correctly it was D#4 in Sao Paulo (will measure again to see if i remember correctly)

In Las vegas 2018 it was G#4 (few notes higher than D#4)

Live Bor every short "Bed of nails" is G#4 and studio it's A4 (half note higher than G#4.)

It's a very bad sign now if he's sounding thinner on the same note IF he's as loud as before on the same note.

Completely agreeing with this!
That being said, I like that he's moving and trying to perform the songs more again. But besides that, not really much has changed.

Btw, is the full setlist from last night known?

Setlist:

01 This House Is Not For Sale
02 Knockout
03 You Give Love A Bad Name
04 Whole Lot Of Leavin'
05 Lost Highway
06 When We Were Us
07 Born To Be My Baby
08 Who Says You Can't Go Home
09 It's My Life
10 We Weren Born To Follow
11 I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
12 We Got It Going On
13 Keep The Faith
14 Amen
15 Bed Of Roses
16 Lay Your Hands On Me
17 God Bless This Mess
18 Have A Nice Day
19 Bad Medicine

Encore
20 Wanted Dead Or Alive
21 Livin' On A Prayer

If they play DC, HG, etc (Other rare songs) it will probably show up later into the tour.