Tickets over priced

Don't waste your time on Kryceck. To him, Bon Jovi can do nothing wrong.

Ice

Depends on how u look at it. When it comes to kissing some butt to get radio play, yup, BJ is in whole different league. But when it comes to musical talent, no member of BJ will ever reach Vai. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if u actually didn't know who Steve Vai is. Duh!

Problem ain't them idiots selling but them bigger idiots buying.

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And your Di Maggio like streak for saying nothing remotely accurate or intelligent continues. Congratulations, it must be very, very tough to continuously come out with such immense crap, but hey presto, you never let the side down.

I'm trying not going to go off topic but just to prove you well and truly wrong, there are plenty of things Bon Jovi do wrong but they do so much more right then wrong and that's why I'm a fan.
A few things wrong: The first two albums are pure shite.
There are a handful of songs on SWW & NJ that stink.
Own Wild Night Live - What a failure.
Johnny continuing to smoke and ruining his voice
Lack of varity in set-lists.

How's that for starters, frosty?


Phil

It must've been hard writing that sentence. Such a long one too.

Opinions, but bad ones.

These are better ones, but still very predictable. How about the last 4 studio albums?

Pretty bad.

Ice

I don't agree that the first 2 albums are shit. Not crazy about 7800, with the exception of about 4 songs, but the first ablum is very good. Not a bad song on it.

I don't think there were any crappy songs on Slippery or New Jersey.

I agree, Crush and Bounce weren't anything spectacular, but I wouldn't call them crap. There were a few decent tracks on each.

As for H.A.N.D., many disagree, but I still think it's the best BJ album since New Jersey.

No, but the fact that you thought of it as difficult is probably a good indicator of your intelligence.


Opinions aren't good or bad, they're opinions. That's what a hefty dose of narcissism and cynicism will do to you though.

Again, everything is opinion not fact. "Crush" - Generally very good but a few too many mistakes for an excellent album. "Bounce" - Gone off this one since the release of HAND, a good album but it ain't Bon Jovi at their best, not by a long way. "This Left Feels Right" - A hugley ballsey effort and just about top marks from me. "Have a Nice Day" - The best album they've ever made.

You know what, you started this "discussion" saying how, to me, Bon Jovi can do no wrong. I've well and truly proven you wrong by listing just a few of the things I don't like but big surprise, they're human, they make mistakes! What you wont ever see me doing though is focusing on what's bad about them. I'm a positive person, I like looking for the best in every situation and I don't look for things that are "wrong" and I sure as hell don't dwell on them. You wanna focus all things negative, go ahead, but one things for sure, you wont get anywhere near as much enjoyment out of life as you could with that silly and unnecessary attitude, and that is the saddest thing I can ever imagine. Toodles.



Phil

And a lot more about your sense of irony.


I find it sad that you feel you have to defend your "positive" attitude on a messageboard. The one's that crack are always the ones who think they're the positive ones.

Ooh, but that's where you're wrong, again. I find it very enjoyable to watch people who love everything Bon Jovi do, trying desperately prove to others that their opinions are worth anything, that they're the "positive" ones, and they're allowed to tell others that they know best, even if they do get pissed off when they don't know who Steve Vai is. I like nothing better thank poking at people like that. Hook, line and sinker.

Ice

You're such a sad individual but what's even sadder is how many people just like you are out there. People who think positivity is a flaw and wear their negativity with pride. The most interesting thing you said was:

"The one's that crack are always the ones who think they're the positive ones."

What I've seen from studying this sort of thing (and from the tiny bits of things I've paid attention to from you, I think I can safely say you fall into this category) is that in a sense, you're afraid to be positive because maybe in the past you were positive and you got hurt and nowlink pain to being positive and all of a sudden you now think positivity cause a person "to crack", ie. causes pain. So what I see from you is an attitude like, aim low, aim so low that I can't fail. Maybe you aren't like that in real life life, I don't know, but I suspect you could be and I think it's so sad that a peron can have been hurt in the past and now don't even try to reach for the stars.

"I like nothing better thank poking at people like that."

So basically what you are saying there is that you derive pleasure from laughing at people who have a positive attitude and look on the bright side of life. I feel so sorry for you, I really do. Don't ever think you can't change if you want to.


Just for the record, I clearly don't need to defend my positive attitude.


Phil

You know Krycek, I can save you alot of time here:

Iceman is a miserable dick. Period.