[Kathleen]

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

Full show:
Bon Jovi- This House is Not For Sale Tour 2018 @ Toyota Center- Houston TX 3-23-2018 - YouTube

Thanks - I'm happy to watch it once.

[TheseDaysEra]

Btw, I truly think Jon's voice problems have something to do with Richie's departure. He said it himself, he couldn't sing when Richie left, not even in the shower. I think it really affected his confidence. Who can blame him ? we're all human..

[efpg0708]

Originally Posted by TheseDaysEra

Btw, I truly think Jon's voice problems have something to do with Richie's departure. He said it himself, he couldn't sing when Richie left, not even in the shower. I think it really affected his confidence. Who can blame him ? we're all human..

I really think that it is both a physical and confidence issue. The way his tone has changed and how he strains his voice when trying to hit some notes show that his upper range is completely destroyed (it’s been for some time) and he can’t even go high with his lower range, which is also damaged. These are classic symptoms of overuse of the vocal chords combined with bad singing techniques over the years. It’a a physical thing which might be accelerated by psicological issues, like Richie’s departure.

Regarding your other post, I agree with you. This is his worst vocal shape ever, and these are the songs he sings and practices the most I suppose. His hands are really tied here. He could practice a lot more songs, but we all know he’s lazy when it comes to rehearsals and practicing.

This is it. His voice and consequently the sets won’t get much better than this.

[TheseDaysEra]

Originally Posted by efpg0708

I really think that is both physical and a confidence issue. The way his tone has changed and how he strains his voice when trying to hit some notes show that his upper range is completely destroyed (it’s been for some time) and he can’t even go high with his lower range, which is also damaged. These are classic symptoms of overuse of the vocal chords combined with bad singing techniques over the years. It’a a physical thing which might be accelerated by psicological issues, like Richie’s departure.

Regarding your other post, I agree with you. This is his worst vocal shape ever, and these are the songs he sings and practices the most I suppose. His hands are really tied here. He could practice a lot more songs, but we all know he’s lazy when it comes to rehearsals and practicing.

This is it. His voice and consequently the sets won’t get much better than this.

Yep. Which is why I don't think it's such a bad thing to call it quits after the hall of fame thing and the remaining dates Or not ! They still sell out shows, regardless, so go figure !

[efpg0708]

Originally Posted by TheseDaysEra

Yep. Which is why I don't think it's such a bad thing to call it quits after the hall of fame thing and the remaining dates Or not ! They still sell out shows, regardless, so go figure !

Again I agree with you, but I’ll doubt this will happen. It’s just like the Saw franchise. The last ones suck, but as long as people pay to see it and they make a profit out of it, they’ll keep making them haha.

[Rdkopper]

Originally Posted by efpg0708

Again I agree with you, but I’ll doubt this will happen. It’s just like the Saw franchise. The last ones suck, but as long as people pay to see it and they make a profit out of it, they’ll keep making them haha.

I use the Star Wars franchise as my analogy.

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[efpg0708]

Originally Posted by Rdkopper

I use the Star Wars franchise as my analogy.

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Haha fair ! The Last Jedi is an abomination.

[nickolai]

Originally Posted by TheseDaysEra

DAMN YOU JON, HOW COME DIDN'T YOU PLAY 'SAVE THE WORLD' AND 'IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES' LAST NIGHT?!??!?!

Seriously guys, I don't mean any disrespect, but aren't you all tired of the same discussions over and over ? I come here very occasionally only to find the same hopes and dreams that Jon will somehow start singing like he did back in the 90s, miraculously. Others hope for a fantastic setlist full of goodies. Others hope that Richie will descend from the skies on a magic rocket in the middle of a show. Nothing wrong with being hopeful when one's a major fan of the band - I wish all these three things happened my self - but I just don't see it happen.

Jon had great, so-so and bad tours voice-wise from 2000 onwards but NEVER THIS BAD. The fact that he's ageing doesn't help, not everyone's Bruce Springsteen. But the guy's either lost his vocal abilities completely or is in need of seriously vocal rehab.

As for the setlits, the fact that his voice is a mess doesn't leave him a lot of room for major adventures. I'm already anticipating a major facepalm from everyone during the Hall of Fame performances. Kinda sad, the guy's trying hard... but he's just too stubborn to admit that continuing touring IS NOT THE WAY TO GO.

Same mate. These are the same boring discussions about the same boring set lists we were having 10 years ago - and people would get a hard-on if they threw in Living In Sin or Something To Believe In.

The band were done as a formidable live band the day Richie bailed

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[rokenrola]

Originally Posted by nickolai

Same mate. These are the same boring discussions about the same boring set lists we were having 10 years ago - and people would get a hard-on if they threw in Living In Sin or Something To Believe In.

The band were done as a formidable live band the day Richie bailed

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far from that,it is a personal opinion,vocally he can sounds solid,energy is good,playing is great,but like I say not everyone wants the same thing.
Unless I see empty arenas and bad playing,cracking voice they are not done,they are not like used to but they are good.
It is not everything in the voice,look at many bands where frontmans are not like before-whitesnake,maiden,guns,purple,metallica and many old bands.

[nickolai]

Originally Posted by rokenrola

far from that,it is a personal opinion,vocally he can sounds solid,energy is good,playing is great,but like I say not everyone wants the same thing.
Unless I see empty arenas and bad playing,cracking voice they are not done,they are not like used to but they are good.
It is not everything in the voice,look at many bands where frontmans are not like before-whitesnake,maiden,guns,purple,metallica and many old bands.

Of course it's opinion. But you cannot deny the band is unrecognizable from the 2010 O2 shows. And that was only 8 years ago. Not a long time. The decline is alarming.

I agree with the notion that the set lists don't meander because it's safe for Jon. What we used to love about a Jovi show was the unpredictable. The move away from the norm. All the shows mould into 1 now. There's not 1 show that stands out as a stellar show anymore. Where are the Wembleys/Hyde Parks/Milans/Lisbons that used to kick ass?

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