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Old 08-03-2010, 07:58 AM
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You're a ****ing idiot, and you're the one who doesn't have a clue. Look up inflation and find out how that works. It's ****ing morons like you who post all the time about how they want to get into Jon's pants and are willing to pay anything to get close to a man who doesn't give a shit about retards like you, that **** up the industry.

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Seb, at least I am not someone who attends dozens of tours for the sole purpose of complaining. YOU are the one throwing away your money.

You don't go to see the band because you enjoy them, you go to complain about how crap they are, then you come back here and tell everyone else how crap they were, when we really don't give a shit.

So take a look in the mirror before you accuse me of wasting my money.
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Old 08-03-2010, 08:02 AM
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Pink didn't seem to think $100 wasn't worth her effort. ACDC didn't think $100 wasn't worth their effort. Both put on amazing shows and had big productions and no one had a bad word to say about prices.
Why do you think that when article after article from all over the world comes out talking about prices Bon Jovi always get mentioned?? Because it is obvious that the fans are being ripped off.
My apologies for the three posts I've made. I wish this forum had a multi quote function!

If you believe you are being ripped off, as a lot of you clearly believe you are - why do you still buy a ticket?

If you believe you are being ripped off, why not send a message to Jon by refusing to purchase a ticket? What are they going to do when no one buys a ticket? Lower the price, of course.

You guys all paying a fortune for these tickets are only going to tell Jon that you are prepared to pay anything - and the tickets will cost more the next tour.

Send the message by taking action. Nothing will change if you don't.
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Old 08-03-2010, 08:58 AM
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What I don't understand is how people can possibly think that paying $300 for a seat is too much.
It's simple.

They compare the cost of that seat to the cost of that same seat the last time Bon Jovi toured. Or to the cost of other major artists (I think Metallica was $150au?). Or to a week's grocery bills for a family of four.
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Old 08-03-2010, 09:56 AM
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Seb, at least I am not someone who attends dozens of tours for the sole purpose of complaining. YOU are the one throwing away your money.

You don't go to see the band because you enjoy them, you go to complain about how crap they are, then you come back here and tell everyone else how crap they were, when we really don't give a shit.

So take a look in the mirror before you accuse me of wasting my money.
First of all there were some numbers quoted to you regarding being ripped off after you hade made a stupid claim that if the ticket price was a hundred dollars then BJ wouldn't bother touring.

Maybe you should go back to school you complete idiot.100 dollars x 50000 people = 5million dollars and no Jon wouldn't even pay his crew half that you spastic.

As for Seb , I don't agree with every post he makes but the guy has seen them over and over again and he does have a right to complain if the show isn't that great.When the f..k have you seen them.I would love to meet you personally in Melb or Syd and tell you what a complete moron you are.

By the sound of everybody on here.You ain't even liked so why bother.Actually fk off
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:00 AM
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You're a ****ing idiot, and you're the one who doesn't have a clue. Look up inflation and find out how that works. It's ****ing morons like you who post all the time about how they want to get into Jon's pants and are willing to pay anything to get close to a man who doesn't give a shit about retards like you, that **** up the industry.

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AMEN to that.
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:42 AM
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It's simple.

They compare the cost of that seat to the cost of that same seat the last time Bon Jovi toured. Or to the cost of other major artists (I think Metallica was $150au?). Or to a week's grocery bills for a family of four.
I understand the prices were cheaper the last time they toured - but if you knew what people were prepared to pay, wouldn't you push a little more and get as much out of the fans as you could?

As I said, if you think the prices are too expensive, don't buy a ticket. If no one buys a ticket, then is Jon gonna shrug his shoulders and not worry about touring? No, chances are he's gonna lower the prices. So send the message that you are not prepared to pay because the next time they tour, you'll be paying even more.
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:45 AM
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First of all there were some numbers quoted to you regarding being ripped off after you hade made a stupid claim that if the ticket price was a hundred dollars then BJ wouldn't bother touring.

Maybe you should go back to school you complete idiot.100 dollars x 50000 people = 5million dollars and no Jon wouldn't even pay his crew half that you spastic.

As for Seb , I don't agree with every post he makes but the guy has seen them over and over again and he does have a right to complain if the show isn't that great.When the f..k have you seen them.I would love to meet you personally in Melb or Syd and tell you what a complete moron you are.

By the sound of everybody on here.You ain't even liked so why bother.Actually fk off
I am quite sure if JBJ was asked to charge only $100 for a ticket, you'd end up with a shitty show. I doubt he'd even want to tour for that amount.

Why are even going to see them? You complain about the price, yet you buy a ticket anyway. If you can't afford it, don't buy one, its that simple. I shouldn't have to be the one to explain this to you.

As for Seb, I have seen only ONE positive review from him. The next are just rants about how crap the band is - he isn't a fan, he stopped being a fan years ago. He pays to criticise, that's all.

Also, respect is earned. I don't believe I have called you a moron or told you where to go, so it would be nice if you could afford me the same respect I have afforded you.
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:50 AM
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I understand the prices were cheaper the last time they toured - but if you knew what people were prepared to pay, wouldn't you push a little more and get as much out of the fans as you could?
No. I'd treat them with respect, not try to take them for every last penny.
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Ok Makedde…I’ve ‘bit’ my tongue for quite awhile on this particular issue…but am ‘all fired up’ now. The issue about the obscene, yes obscene, cost of Jovi tickets here in Oz has you [and some others] ‘missing the point’ of what some of us on this forum, and other Jovi related forums are trying to get across. The ‘blame’ can be laid at 2 people’s/organisations feet in the first instance – the promoter [in this case DCE] and the artist [in this case Jon Bon Jovi, CEO of BJ Inc] and Bondjovi’s post is pretty spot on regarding this.
Many, many of my fellow Jovi fan friends, have done exactly that – complained directly to Dainty, as have I.
In the second instance, there are some of the fans themselves to blame – especially the ones who have had a shit fit themselves about the cost of tickets o/s and vowed they would no way pay that here…and then gone ahead and done exactly what they vowed they wouldn’t do. I tell you what I don’t understand and that’s Jovi fans who have the right to pay whatever for a ticket if they choose to, and then go ape shit defensive if any other Jovi fan points out that the cost of the tickets is insane.
Unfortunately, when it comes to being constructively critical of anything about Jovi, we must NOT say something against the ‘8th. Wonder of the World’ [aka –JBJ]

Just 2 and a half years ago this band toured here on the Lost Highway tour. The top ticket price at that time, if I remember correctly, belongs to the Melb. Show at The Music Bowl - $299. The average top end price, across the board, for the general public [and this EXCLUDES the presales and the FC] was $150. Luck does indeed play a part in what you get, especially general sales, so you can get real lucky like a friend of mine who went through the general sale, paid what we did [$150] and got seats in the side front section, 2 rows back – or you can hope for the best, and a bit of luck, and go with one of the presales [in our case, Perth Glory], get Gold Tickets @ $150 a piece and be 55 rows from the front.

Let’s fast forward to July 2010:
Top end tix = $A1950 – for this OUTRAGEOUS price you get front row and you get to take the seat home, along with a signed tour book thing and pre show cocktails/dinner…just what I’ve been hanging for – a $750 fold up outdoor chair with Jovi etc stencilled on it.
Next tier: $A1200 – rows 2-5 inclusive – same as above…but NO chair [excuse me…so the front row seating costs an extra $750 – now let’s times that amount by however many seats are in the front row and let me loose in Bunnings – I’m pretty damn sure I’d be able to buy a shit load more chairs than what have been purchased for the front row]
Next tier: Row 6 back to whatever inside the circle – between $A812.95 and $A1017.55
Immediately outside the circle [aka ‘Let it Rock’ tickets]: $608.35

My $150 for the Lost Highway Tour gets me jack shit this time round re: decently placed seating. Not that I consider 55 rows back all that ‘decent’, but with this tour, I’d be lucky to be better than 2/3 back, whether on the arena or in the stadium, and let me tell you, 2/3 or worse back from the front in Etihad, especially on the arena, is not a decent spot.
I compared Subiaco this time round to LH tour 2008 – on the current seating chart, section B5 = the equivalent of where we were, but B5 on this tour = $306 per ticket. That’s double what we paid in 2008. Yes, things go up and as you pointed out:
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Prices will naturally rise over the years. Duh.
That INCLUDES concert tickets.
But, I assure you, my wages have NOT doubled in the same space of time.
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It costs a fortune to tour - or did you forget that? How many people does he have to pay? How many people travel with them, help set up the stage, lights, sound etc? Those people have to be paid.
He's making sure he gets his monies worth. If you want them to tour for a ticket rpice of a hundred bucks, they wouldn't even bloody bother going on tour.
Ummm..no, we haven’t forgotten that.
If these shows are literal sell outs, then this part of the world tour is well on target to gross close to $A63 million just in ticket sales. [I’m basing that on there being an average of 35,000 at each of the 6 stadium shows at an average price of $300 a ticket – and I haven’t included Rod Laver arena] If we allow say, 60% of that to go out in total costs [$A37.8 mill] that leaves a net profit of $25.2 million. Don’t know about you, but for say 25 hours of work [I’m talking about the band], I’d say that’s a pretty good return.
Using the same formula above except we make the average ticket price $A170 [cause $100 is too low], the figure would be just under $A36 million gross, and taking 60% out leaves just over $A14 million.

****at this point, I’m thinking touring here is DEFINITELY worth it****

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It's called the cost of living, darling. You could buy a house 20 years ago for less than a third of what you pay now. You could buy a house TEN years ago at half the cost you pay now.
Sorry, but that is incorrect. 26 years ago we paid $47,500 for the house we still live in. 26 years ago, I was a stay at home mum and hubby’s gross income for that year was just under $30,000. This same house is now worth at least $500,000 on the open market and NO effing way has my husband’s income risen anywhere near that increase cause if it had, he’d be on $300,000.
You have mentioned that you have been waiting a long time to see this band, tis your first Jovi gig and I sincerely hope you have a brilliant time. Everyone on this forum who has seen the band at least once, know where you are coming from on that score and every one of us were as pumped for our first show as you are. No-one is attempting to take that off you. Equally, you are correct when you state that no-one has the right to tell you, or anyone else, how to spend their money and on what. No argument there. But what I will ‘argue’ with you about is your comment/s such as:
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I get sick to death of people bitching about the ticket prices - if you can't afford a godamned ticket, don't bloody buy one, then complain about the price afterwards, because it makes you sound like a hypocrite
Okay, so using that rationale, I buy groceries every week for my family – and because I paid for those groceries, I can not complain about the cost of food??? If I do, I’m a hypocrite???
All of us, including you, are consumers – and consumers have the right to complain. Just as no-one has the right to tell you what you can and can not do with your money re Jovi tickets, you don’t have the right to tell people who have purchased tickets, whatever they cost, that they can not complain. YES they can.
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You guys all paying a fortune for these tickets are only going to tell Jon that you are prepared to pay anything - and the tickets will cost more the next tour
Am I therefore to assume, that includes you? You have paid a fortune for your ticket, whether you realise it or not.
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What I don't understand is how people can possibly think that paying $300 for a seat is too much. It isn't.
Really – and on what do you base that? What gigs have you been going to that you think $300 is NOT too much????
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But every one of you could have afforded any ticket you liked if you'd only prepared yourselves.
Very big assumption on your part Makedde. This is not your fault, but at 26 years of age, you can not assume nor presume to know what those of us who are 10, 15 and, in my case, double your age know. While you can compare ‘oranges to mandarins’, we can compare ‘oranges to oranges’, and what you were able to put away each week, a lot of others put away to cover the cost of school books, school excursions for their children, put aside for the increases in private health insurance, are putting into super contributions. Maybe, just maybe, at the end of the day, some of us don’t have a spare $10 to put aside for something that is not as high on the list of things that have to be paid/covered/needed/wanted.

I truly sincerely hope, given what you have spent on your ticket for the Etihad show, that Jovi are ‘switched’ on and not on ‘autopilot’ as some of us [myself included] have witnessed when Jon is in a ‘mood’, and that the concert lives up to all your expectations.
Oh, and just for the record, I’ve been a die-hard Jovi fan for 24 years.

Best sum up of this goes to my husband: when I told him the tickets had all but sold out [he was aware of the ticket prices] he said "someone in BJ management and also in Dainty needs to be sacked!" I asked 'why?' and he replied: "Because they should have charged 25% more!"
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Shaz, I thank you for your respectful reply. It's appreciated.

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Just 2 and a half years ago this band toured here on the Lost Highway tour. The top ticket price at that time, if I remember correctly, belongs to the Melb. Show at The Music Bowl - $299.
Okay, fair enough. I paid $303 for my ticket - that's only four dollars more. I don't see that as being a big increase. If it was a lot more than that, I could understand the complaints, but four dollars?

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Top end tix = $A1950 – for this OUTRAGEOUS price you get front row and you get to take the seat home, along with a signed tour book thing and pre show cocktails/dinner…just what I’ve been hanging for – a $750 fold up outdoor chair with Jovi etc stencilled on it.
If I was a millionaire, I'd probably pay for that - I am assuming the dinner doesn't include dining with the band members? If it does, then I don't think it's that bad of a deal.

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But, I assure you, my wages have NOT doubled in the same space of time.
I completely understand this. My wages haven't gone up either but everything becomes more expensive. It can be frustrating.

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26 years ago we paid $47,500 for the house we still live in. 26 years ago, I was a stay at home mum and hubby’s gross income for that year was just under $30,000. This same house is now worth at least $500,000 on the open market and NO effing way has my husband’s income risen anywhere near that increase cause if it had, he’d be on $300,000.
But if you sold, you'd make one hell of a return - thats a massive profit right there.

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Okay, so using that rationale, I buy groceries every week for my family – and because I paid for those groceries, I can not complain about the cost of food??? If I do, I’m a hypocrite???
Of course not. Food is necessary, and vital for our survival. Concert tickets are not.
I am well aware food is expensive - but I'd choose food over concert tickets anyday if I had to.

What would make someone a hypocrite would be if they complained they couldn't afford to put food on the table, but were wasting money on their pack a day habit. That's about $100 right there, down the drain. Sometimes people get their priorities wrong, they forget what's truely important.

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All of us, including you, are consumers – and consumers have the right to complain. Just as no-one has the right to tell you what you can and can not do with your money re Jovi tickets, you don’t have the right to tell people who have purchased tickets, whatever they cost, that they can not complain. YES they can.
I am going to have to agree. It really irks me to see people here complaining about the tickets, going out and buying one, then continuing to complain. If you can't afford a ticket, don't buy one!

I'd love a plasma screen TV but I can't afford one - would it be okay for me to go out and buy one, and then complain about how expensive they are? I'd be a silly person if I did that.

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Am I therefore to assume, that includes you? You have paid a fortune for your ticket, whether you realise it or not.
I actually paid less than what I expected. I'd allowed at least $400 for it, and when they went on sale, out of the money I'd saved for almost a year, I had a good $100 left to put aside. The only reason I could afford such a good seat was because saved up the money to prepared for it. If I hadn't saved up I wouldn't be going.

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Really – and on what do you base that? What gigs have you been going to that you think $300 is NOT too much????
I don't go to many gigs, as I don't have a car (yet) they are hard to get to. My parents have said they'll drive me to Melbourne when the band comes.
$300 isn't a lot for me because I expected to pay a lot more. I think it's a pretty good deal, I have a good seat and will be watching an awesome band play for at least two hours. In my mind, I'm getting my monies worth.

I went to see Evanescence in Feb 2007. I paid $95 for my ticket and I wasn't even up the front, but to the side. This was at Vodafone arena. The support act played for an hour, then Ev came on and played for just over an hour, after the show was over they stalked off stage - although the boys stayed and waved to us all. There was no interaction with the crowd at all. It was dull and lifeless and I wish I'd asked for my money back.

With Jovi, I am quite sure I'm gonna be happy with the performance.

Even if I did think the tickets were a bit steep, I wouldn't complain about the prices.

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Maybe, just maybe, at the end of the day, some of us don’t have a spare $10 to put aside for something that is not as high on the list of things that have to be paid/covered/needed/wanted.
If that was the case, how could you possibly afford to buy a ticket? If you didn't have enough money to save up gradually, how could you possibly come up a few hundred to buy a ticket for something which isn't high on the list of priorities?

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I truly sincerely hope, given what you have spent on your ticket for the Etihad show, that Jovi are ‘switched’ on and not on ‘autopilot’ as some of us [myself included] have witnessed when Jon is in a ‘mood’, and that the concert lives up to all your expectations.
I have heard some reviews and they are less than pleasing, and while I won't have anything to compare my experience with (this being my first ever show) I can get an idea of whether the show was good or not by checking out comments which will be posted by others here after the show.

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Oh, and just for the record, I’ve been a die-hard Jovi fan for 24 years.
I've been a diehard fan for two years (although I have always appreciated their music) and hopefully, I'll be a fan for the same length of time you have!
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