What has Happened to Jon?

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

If I had to choose between attempted high notes that leave Jon out of breath and sounding like shit, or re-vamped melodies/less tries at sounding like an 80s rocker and sounding AWESOME for the rest of the show, I say good frigging riddance to the high notes. High notes do not make a song great.

Originally Posted by SamboraQueen21

Jon isn't 25 years old anymore.. and really if you listen to him on the SWW tour when he was young his voice was a mess due to so much touring.




Absolutely.... i don't want to sound like a backstager and kiss Jon's ass but from seeing them live twice and hearing bootlegs from other shows I am AMAZED at how much better Jon sounds on this tour. It is the best he has sounded in years.





Jon has quit and that is why he sounds noticeably better this tour. I too hope he can keep it up.

You have said you didn't see Jon on the Bounce tour but saw them on OWN... Jon sounds a MILLION times better on this tour than Bounce. Go listen to Wild is the Wind from the first Toronto show and tell me if Jon's voice is lacking power... that recording sounds like 1989 Jon. I heard them soundcheck it in 2001 and Jon sounds horrible on it.. it is painful to listen to it. But here five years later Jon sounds brilliant on it in concert

Also to me it seems the energy IS back in Jon's performances.... he seems to REALLY be into the tour and giving his all night after night. I wasn't in Florida so I don't know if Jon was having an "off night" but I heard boots when he was sick and even in those to me it sounds like he is giving his all. I really truly don't think he has been half-assing this tour. The majority of the reviews from fans.. even the very critical ones of Jon have been very positive and most have been impressed with this tour.. especailly Jon's performances

Originally Posted by BobbyJovi

i dont know what u guys are talking abt..it doesnt really matter if he smoke s or not.He's not supposed to sing through his throat,he sings from the diaphragm.
This singing thru the nose crap is a joke.The guy doesnt have any confidence in his voice.Sometimes he'll suprise us,his version of welcome to wherever you are live sounds great,the rest well enough said.
I played a live dvd to one of my friends whos a singer,his comment...this guy cant sing to save himself.

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

If I had to choose between attempted high notes that leave Jon out of breath and sounding like shit, or re-vamped melodies/less tries at sounding like an 80s rocker and sounding AWESOME for the rest of the show, I say good frigging riddance to the high notes. High notes do not make a song great. It's the emotion, feel and melody that does it for me. I shed NO tear at the loss of high notes cuz Jon is sounding absolutely killer this tour.

Originally Posted by Becky

I completely agree! I love when Jon sings in his lower range and I love the tone and control he has. He sounds much better now than he did in the 80's.

Originally Posted by Ireland

So would you rather have the high notes that you have heard a million times on recordings (and probably would not add much to the enthusiasm of the show), or a 2 1/2 hour concert with many opportunities to see the band????

Originally Posted by BobbyJovi

i dont know what u guys are talking abt..it doesnt really matter if he smoke s or not.He's not supposed to sing through his throat,he sings from the diaphragm.

Originally Posted by kjfoxx2k

This is a genuine concern of a serious Bon Jovi fan, not the rantings of a hater. So please don't take this the wrong way...

But as someone who saw him twice on the crush tour and who has heard numerous official and unofficial live documents from all eras.... HAND Tampa #2's performance was half-assed in every sense of the word.

Maybe this was just an off night and maybe I'm off base but these concerns have been growing for awhile...

I know Jon has had to 'sing through his nose' live for awhile now.... gritting your voice up studio-style doesn't hold up over 3 octaves and hundreds of tour-dates. But at what point did he decide to just start dodging every single high note altogether? Didn't happen on the These Days tour.... didn't happen MUCH on the Crush tour... but it's happening now. He's even sleepwalking through basic vocal melodies such as 'Sleep when I'm Dead' and 'Runaway'.

Why is EVERY SINGLE SONG played at least a half-step to whole-step lower? (Except.... of all songs... the reasonably high-pitched RAISE YOUR HANDS??!)... I can understand doing it with vocally demanding material like Bad Medicine and the Ballads, but lowering the already low vocal melody of Last Man Standing just made Jon sound bored out of his mind. are those MONSTER HIGH NOTES at the end of LmS and I Wanna Be Loved REALLY too hard to hit in the original key?.. he barely varies the vocal melody at all on the studio renditions as it is...

At what point did Jon decide to stop singing 'I'll Be There For You' altogether? I know he did this on the Bounce tour (although I never saw him then) and Richie sings the song great and makes for a good change of pace... but doing that song TLFR style sucks, plain and simple. Jon, you already threw out the key change! How much easier can you make it?

As a singer myself, I know the wear and tear that a wide-ranged belter will suffer on his voice over the years. I can understand Jon not being able to sing the Slippery material as well as back in the day. But on the Crush tour, he had no qualms hitting most of his high notes on songs like Bed of Roses, KTF, and Saturday Night (and he didn't do that ridiculous 'sing the chorus an octave lower' crap he pulled on TLFR live). A man's voice will change from his 20's to late 30's... but from his early 40's to mid 40's? Has something seriously wrong happened with his voice in the last FIVE YEARS or is he just deciding to sleepwalk, knowing he can fall back on the 'audience singalong' crap that he ONLY used to do on 'Living on a Prayer' (understandably) and now pulls off on no less than 5 or 6 songs a night?

His voice got BETTER from New Jersey to These Days.. even through his solo album... then it just nosedived, but even on Crush he sounded fine... on the tour, too.

His voice is still there, the studio albums prove it. My mp3 of an acoustic rendition of 'All About Loving You', high notes intact, proves it. Did I just catch him on a WAY off night or does he still let it rip anymore at all on this HAND tour?

Other issues that have been simmering for awhile... why no songs from the first two albums other than Runaway? 'She Don't Know Me'? 'Breakout'? 'Silent Night'? 'Roulette?!!!!' Roulette is one of your best songs, dammit! Diehards would go ape-poop for it! Def Leppard, after years of ignoring their first two albums, finally gave the diehards what they wanted... will Jon (or CAN Jon) do the same?

Speaking of Runaway, I was thrilled to hear it's original version instead of the weepy piano-ballad version, but do you mean to tell me that between Jon, David, Richie, Tico, Hugh, and those two extra guys who augmented them for apparently NO AUDIBLE REASON AT ALL (never seen them augmented before)... between those 7 men, NOBODY could cover those EASY falsetto high notes at the end? sheesh.

Why play 'Everyday' at all?! That's the worst song off Bounce, an album that debuted at #2 and fell off the charts within 3 weeks! Never heard it once on the radio, either. And lyrically, it's an exact replica of 4 other songs he played that night!! Even my girlfriend commented 'I wish he woudln't play all of his 'gonna live my life' songs at once, they all get to sounding the same and lose their meaning'.

Ok, that's about enough negativity... but I was SERIOUSLY disappointed, I KNOW this band, and Jon, have so much more to offer than what I spent my hard earned money on Saturday, the 18th in Tampa. Does he EVER let it rip at all on this tour? The only time it sounded like he gave a care was on HAND and WtWyA (which are fairly tough songs to sing!... )

Positives about the show: Richie sounded great. Jon ripped some nice guitar solos when he played, which I've never seen him do. For once, he didn't medley 'Bad Medicine' with 'Shout' (which never gets old, but it's nice to see him switch up). He didn't play 'Complicated' (Imo the worst song off HAND and it's been getting a LOT of concert play for some reason). Nice mixups in the setlist... great crowd.

I'd like to hear some intelligent responses to my questions... I don't mean to hate. But I was let down, plain and simple. Bono can still rip 'New Year's Day' out like he's a kid again, will I ever see Jon's old side in concert? I'll save my future money for a filmed performance, perhaps then he'll let it all come out.