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Old 07-15-2010, 02:13 PM
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The band never fell out with each other, they all fell out with Jon because he was being a prick.

Just watch the Access All Areas footage, Dave, Richie, Tico and Alec all clown around with each other throughout the New Jersey tour while Jon sulks in corners.

Dave and Tico went straight from the tour to record and tour with Richie, that doesn't sound like a band that fell out with each other.

Jon refused to sit with them at some MTV awards show too.
Woah, never knew about all that. Shame on you Jon Bon Jovi. Why the frigg did he sit at another table?
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More fan fiction brewing.

Jon is a loner. This is a known fact. He is also the brooding type. What you see in Access is pretty normal for him and hardly a reflection of unwillingness to socialize with the rest of the band. It's just who he is. He keeps to himself.

As for 3 of them touring together, it's not like they came off the Jersey Syndicate tour and jumped on to Richie's tour. They all had a couple of months apart. They've all made statements of going their own way after the tour.

It's all in good fun writing up these little fiction snippets. Just remember that is all they are and don't try to add Wikipedia entries (I'm sure I just gave a few folks an idea.)
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:14 PM
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As, BP said, y'all are writing fan fiction here. Some facts for you. BEFORE Dave and Tico decided to go on tour with Richie they:

1. Played the Count Basie Theater with Jon, 12-23-90.
2. Played several concerts in Japan with Jon, 12/90-1/91.
3. Appeared on the Academy Awards Broadcast with Jon to play Blaze of Glory, 3-91.

So any "not speaking to one another" stuff had been worked out prior to or with those late 90/early 91 concerts indicating that no one was any less "sick of" Richie than they were of Jon or anyone else.
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:17 PM
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Woah, never knew about all that. Shame on you Jon Bon Jovi. Why the frigg did he sit at another table?

Dunno, guess he thought he was above them.

I think the rest of the guys wanted more recognition, but with Jon it was all about him. He then went on to show how he was the boss by firing Doc MGee, and Alec.

Jon is a ruthless guy, just look how he ****ed Skid Row over.
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More fan fiction brewing.

Jon is a loner. This is a known fact. He is also the brooding type. What you see in Access is pretty normal for him and hardly a reflection of unwillingness to socialize with the rest of the band. It's just who he is. He keeps to himself.

Thanks God someone has the same character as I do. And I thought that all this thing of me being a loner is a kind of loonacy. But thanks God I am not that unique! Even the famous have the same introvert type problem

David, again you are speakig so much sense! Sometimes I have a feeling that Jon has proabably murdered the families of some of the pople who are posting here and that is why they have so much jaundice against this man. And so they find fault with whatever he does, no matter how neutral it is. And interpret all his actions and words in the worst light and seek for some mysterious hidden meaning

But seriously - yes, I agree with you that Jon has is a loner. I am even more extremely introverted than he is, I think. And looking from thew point of view of a maximum introvert, whenever I see someone avoiding the company I simply think - well, I know, it is natural!
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Dunno, guess he thought he was above them.

I think the rest of the guys wanted more recognition, but with Jon it was all about him. He then went on to show how he was the boss by firing Doc MGee, and Alec.

Jon is a ruthless guy, just look how he ****ed Skid Row over.
I guess you're too young to have "been there" during that time. Jon didn't want all the recognition. He was dying for the press to talk to someone other than him, but the press in general wasn't interested in anyone else. I have an interview with Jon and Dave somewhere where Jon said that he didn't want to do it all and Dave said he wanted to do anything. They both wanted something other than what they were getting. But Jon can't control who the press was interested in. The first Rolling Stone cover is an example. They guaranteed Jon that the band would be on the cover, but they were taking a few single shots of him for inside the magazine. Then he wound up on the cover and the people at the magazine told him they couldn't "fit" the band on the cover. Jon then referenced another cover with Paul Simon, I believe, that had a bunch of guys on the cover to show that they had lied to him about that.

And, don't forget, if Skid Row was f-ed over, Richie did it too, not just Jon. There's an interview with Snake that's been linked here many times where he says Richie lied about giving back the money. I, personally, don't believe they were screwed over. They signed a deal giving Jon and Richie publishing rights and if the stories are to be believed that Jon and Richie wrote songs for them, then they deserved publishing rights. And, seriously, it couldn't have been to much of a f-over because Snake and Rachel are still friends with Jon and have written with him post the drama (Kiss the Bastards for Saints & Sinners).
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Jon didn't want all the recognition. He was dying for the press to talk to someone other than him, but the press in general wasn't interested in anyone else.
Remind me again who he named his band after.
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Dunno, guess he thought he was above them.

I think the rest of the guys wanted more recognition, but with Jon it was all about him. He then went on to show how he was the boss by firing Doc MGee, and Alec.

Jon is a ruthless guy, just look how he ****ed Skid Row over.
You're making it sound like he fired Alec as a power play to keep the other guys in line. You seem to have a LOT of resentment against Jon.
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He then went on to show how he was the boss by firing Doc MGee, and Alec.
Two people entirely deserving of keeping their jobs.
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:04 PM
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And, don't forget, if Skid Row was f-ed over, Richie did it too, not just Jon.
You seem to have left out the fact Richie gave all the money back to Skid Row, Jon did not.

I have nothing against Jon, he is who he is. I'm not going to blindly defend him though.
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