Why don't they play so many great songs?

Yes and no. I completely understand what you mean and I agree to a point, I guess I'm just trying to stay positive. But they have done accoustic performances, complete re-arrangments (TLFR and Runaway 2000), they've changed the intro to Prayer, lyric changes here and there, added solos etc. so give them credit where it's due, although they could do more, especially Richie, they do make little changes here and there that keeps things interesting.



What have SOAD done outside the US and Canada?


Phil

Then how come they don't sell more albums and sell out bigger arenas?

How do you define bigger? Longevity at the top?

Ponrauil

Would SOAD sell out any of the european venues jovi are play at? don't think so... Would they sell out giants?

And, their name is bigger, due to the fact that they have been around for a longer period of time. many artists sell multi platinum, but hardly all of them stick around for 20 years and do the same.

Better than nothing for sure, but that's too little change on too few songs for a band that's been touring for 20 years. And these changes were made to songs that already were and still are in the setlist, so it's still safer than to rework songs that they leave out because they can't play/sing them anymore.

Mesmerize went to number one in Germany, Austria, France, Sweden, Japan,
Switzerland, Colombia, Greece, Brazil, and New Zealand.
Big enough?

Ponrauil

I thought that the definition of "big" wasn't associated with high chart positions. Bon jovi has high chart possitions all over the world, they are still not as big as for instance U2.

I personaly would say big is when more or less everyone knows you and knows at least some songs and perhaps one album. Like Madonna, like a prayer, or U2m where the streets have no name and so on.

Well I don't know but since their albums are doing as good if not better they just might. I know they would in France.

Bon Jovi sell out Giants because it's their home venue.

Should that have such an impact on price tickets though? I mean it has no impact on the quality of the shows.

Ponrauil

Did I say it wasn't? When?

Yet their tickets are about the same price.

I agree, but again, does it justify to pay twice as much to see them live?

Ponrauil

Do you now Corneliani suits? It's not like Corneliani suits are better then for instance Hugo Boss Baldessarini, but their name is very very well known, and they have been around for quite some time. This makes a suit from Corneliani very expensive, not because it's better or more beautiful (or perhaps just a bit... ), but because it's Corneliani. It's more or less them same with big acts like Jovi and stones, they are by no means better, just old and expensive.

True.



Respect.


Phil

I get it. What I'm asking is do you think it's right? I don't.
To get back to the beginning of this discussion, this is why I think BJ are overpriced and therefore tour for the money.
Other things that make me think this are the safe tour destinations and the fewer dates each tour.

Ponrauil