Why not sell Recordings of shows

And the good thing about the Linkin Park way of things, is that the CD and programme extras cost just £40... and thats including a ticket!

Jon and you have a lot in common then.
A live show is no studio recording and except for you and a handful it doesn't matter if there are some words out of key or skipped. It's the great show one attended on a CD, not a data resource for analyzing inane mistakes.

It's not like other bands who do this deliver pitch perfect shows every single night. So I really don't see what you're having with Jon - again.

Sometimes it seems you're angry with Jon because you cannot accept for yourself that you're so in love with him - which really isn't Jon's fault.

Ah dont get me started on this, i have gone on about this for years, i even wrote a email to the official bon jovi website the q & a thing about it and unsurprisingly didnt get a reply. It was just ignored and i have also started a thread on here several years back.

It is such a easy way of making money its just mad that the band dont do it.

They must record for themselves each show for archiving reasons plus the Video from the big screens, i do not understand why they cannot share this out to fans who want it, obviously for a fee. It must be so easy to do.

As everybody has mentioned metaliica do it, genesis, pearl jam. and its really successful

I for one would love to have a Soundboard recording of the shows i have been too, or shows that i would have liked to have gone to.

For the sake of them uploading it to a website, and then us paying to download it would stop people bootlegging it. It would also add another pile of cash to there already huge mountains.

For the people who say that the band or Jon wont do it because of his voice/mistakes etc. There is nearly always a bootleg that emerges of each show but the quality is not always that good. plus as people have mentioned you tube will also show the mistakes. so you cannot eradicate this it will always be there.

So they should just give the fans what they want and that is a good quality recording of the show.

Rich

The band gets accused enough already for just cashing in.
Basically, I agree though with what you said.

Aloha !

I know it doesn't matter to us, and that the mistakes are part of the live experience. But when 50% of the songs performed live have a mistake in them, made by Jon because his vocal delivery is no longer what it was, everyone will notice, not only the die hards.

However, the part of the live experience is is something Jon can not get trough his head, which is why there aren't that many live recordings, and if there are any they have so many overdubs that it doesn't feel live anymore. One Wild Night being the perfect example for that, with each song having countless overdubs and edits in it.

If Jon really doesn't mind the mistakes live, why is Any Other Day on the latest DVD almost completely resung by him in the studio, and does it look like Blood On Blood on TLFR is out of synch?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I still don't think too many people notice the mistakes. And even if they would, the question is rather do they care? I also don't think so. Most of the concert goers either don't care or don't even know that Jon's voice isn't what it used to be. They just enjoy what is still an awesome show to the casual rock fan who is out for a huge event by an established band.

I don't know if he doesn't mind them, he probably does. The thing is again, that the common fan will buy it even if she/he dislikes the release and cringes over the dubbing, but the others that are interested, surely don't diss it because they found out there's parts overdubbed.

Other than that, I really don't think he minds the mistakes in the way that he is ashamed to make them public. Sorry, I just don't buy that. I think he is of the opinion that using modern technologies polishes the raw material and results in a better product. I don't think he wants to retouch his mistakes for the sake of claiming that he is never-failing, can't see he's trying to fool people.

Even if you think it's fooling, there's a lot of worse fooling going on in today's media than some dubbings on a concert DVD.
Well, I see what you are saying, but I just don't see the big deal to it.

PS: Point for you for not going for my other comments.

Aloha !

I think they do notice them to a slight extend, but just not in concert. It's impossible to hear every single mistake Jon makes in concert with a crowd of 55.000 people singing along. However, let someone hear a recording of the bridge of Livin' On A Prayer from any night (or the chorus from Keep The Faith from the HAND tour) and ask them if they would enjoy listening to a show at home. They probably wouldn't.

And that's the thing. If I want a recording of the show, I don't want a show that's overdubbed. Yes I'd probably buy it, but the intention of having a real recording of the show would be lost and it wouldn't feel real. I'd stick to my bootlegs again, even while they do not all have the mix that comes from the soundboards, and bootleggers still wouldn't be gone.

It's impossible for Jon to overdub each and every Livin' On A Prayer from every night, or to go over every show to find out the mistakes he or even any another band member made, so this results in no official recordings at all.

There are no DVD's from the past because he's too ashamed of what he did back then and knows that a show from the Keep The Faith Tour would be preferred by many over the Crush Tour DVD. If we prefer it, so will the casual fan.

If he think he needs to make it better, that would mean that he's not happy with the outcome in the first place, right? There's not a single song that has been released since 2000 that hasn't had any overdubs or a Jon that's slightly out of key, while you see him fluffing the words of Lay Your Hands On me at Wembley. Big difference.

I got back at you in another post. This one just wasn't worth the hassle.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Y'know, I'm kinda' starting to get annoyed again!!!

Jon's nearly 50 years old for christs sake! He's never going to sound like he did in the 80's!!!! Will you stop harping on about his voice, please, at least for the sake of my sanity!!!!!!!!

Even on the Live From London DVD, you can hear his voice kinda' going very nasal during Hey God. It was NEVER perfect. What it still is, is very much unique, which is why I love to listen to it.

I've never picked up on any major mistakes in a live show and the ones I have seen have been kinda' funny - but you're right in a way, there must be a reason why they don't want to release live shows. It would be so easy to upload them and I'd buy every single freakin' one, and so would most Jovi fans.

Still, if you don't point the finger on it for them or give them something to compare with, I doubt many people would care or even hear it.

I agree, bootleggers wouldn't be gone, I never said so.
As for the rest, I understand it wouldn't feel real for you, but I just doubt that a lot of people even think about whether the thing might be overdubbed or not in the first place. That's all.

I just don't buy that as a reason, sorry. That's not my impression of him that he would feel the need to do that.

Again, not my perception of things. There are no such DVDs, ok. Ashamed? Well, he said something to that extent here and there, yes, but in my book he didn't mean it as serious as you're trying to make it look. He doesn't want to release it. That's fine with me. Sure, I would love it and prefer it, but so what?

But that's what I tried to explain. I don't think he does it because it would be a shame otherwise, I believe it's done because they think it's common standard to polish raw material, just like you need to cut raw video material to create an appealing result.

So we'll do it ourselves..
Anybody got a van? I have a high speed cd burner now all i need is a few hundred more.Bribe the soundboard dude with some of the profits and sell them away out of the back of the van ,sorted.