Worst shows?

Fredrik · #11 08-28-2011, 09:07 AM

As I hadn't seen Bon Jovi since 2001 when I went to Munich this year I didn't find it even remotely as bad as Seb describes it. There were moments that I ddn't really care for, songs where Jon didn't really deliver on the vocals, but overall that wasn't even close to a bad show. For me. Perhaps the energy in the crowd was low in GC, but rest assured that on the bleachers and the GA there was an energy high. In honest, it definitely blows some of the 2000 and 2001 shows I saw out of the water. The worst one definitely being Stockholm 2001, despite songs like Wild Is The Wnd and Homebound Train. So once again, good songs on paper doesn't equal a good show.

Neurotica80 · #12 08-28-2011, 11:59 AM

Hull. It really was In a league of it's own.

Last show of the European tour and Jon couldn't even be bothered say goodbye to the fans properly. He didn't smile once after bad medicine. I can just about put up with standards sets, autopilot etc but Jons shitty mood really spoilt the whole show.

Others I would mention are prudential night 4, my night 3 and last of the shows I saw there. Very basic and total autopilot, sad to end my first NJ shows on a low point. Wolves 2003 was similar too.

Even so, nothing touches Hull. Maybe It was a good thing I went as there's a big difference to a show us diehards find boring or autopilot than an actual BAD one where it's clear to see the band don't even wanna be there.

Bounce7800 · #13 08-28-2011, 07:01 PM

All those shows Seb listed and no Hull? Unless they are just the shows you did that were bad, but Hull was in a league of its own for being bad. Not that I did it, its was the only one on the UK tour I missed (thankfully! Although I considered it). Being amazed following the PBP that it was over before 10pm was the first sign it wasnt all that.
The "one more ****ing time" in Bad Medicine and the lifeless version of Prayer

Bon Jovi Have a Nice Day Tour 06 Hull KC Stadium...

just two examples. Obviously, there are the other much speculated factors about why it went down that why, but that should not lead to a performance like that, and the fans that waited in the rain didnt deserve that shit.

I think you are a bit harsh on the London shows Seb. Yes they fell below expectations, but the expectations were probably too high. Hyde Park 03 was pretty decent, and the 2 Twickers gigs were ok- a bit annoying that they were late on to the stage on night 1 and didnt really end with a bang on night 2, but I wouldnt call them bad, just not as good as they could/should have been.

Supersonic · #14 08-28-2011, 07:14 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800

All those shows Seb listed and no Hull? Unless they are just the shows you did that were bad,

Yeah it was just the shows I did. I decided that right after the show in Goffertpark that I was done with Bon Jovi for a while. Jon's voice was completely shot that tour and pretty much every show was on auto pilot due to Richie being a complete mess. I therefore decided not to give any London (as in Milton Keynes) shows a chance.

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I think you are a bit harsh on the London shows Seb. Yes they fell below expectations, but the expectations were probably too high. Hyde Park 03 was pretty decent, and the 2 Twickers gigs were ok- a bit annoying that they were late on to the stage on night 1 and didnt really end with a bang on night 2, but I wouldnt call them bad, just not as good as they could/should have been.

I disagree. I saw a great performance on the Bounce tour in Amsterdam, and saw a band off auto pilot in Ostend of the same tour. Then I saw Bon Jovi play in Hyde Park and although Jon put in all those little extra's here and there (a medley in Sleep, Sympathy For The Devil in Faith, These Days in the encore) it was just a mess. It was a brilliant crowd and a great night, but not because of Bon Jovi's wonderful performance.

I've also seen 2 great shows on the LH tour, being Amsterdam and Frankfurt. I had the expectations of Jon being the same in London, but this didn't happen. I also felt that both shows went over like a lead balloon, I never felt that they had the crowd on it's feet, everyone was just sort of standing there. They came late on stage at night 1 because they planned it that way. 1 short show with Dry County for good measure, one longer show with I Believe as a real surprise, but that was it really. I was just bored by the entire performance while the same songs had entertained me on another show.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Bounce7800 · #15 08-28-2011, 07:22 PM

Hyde Park was the only one I did on the Bounce tour, so I dont have any reference for it. I didnt think Twickers were much better than average compared to the other UK shows- I preferred them to Bristol & Southampton, but there were far below Coventry and Manchester. You're right in that there was definitely some spark missing those nights though- I was closer at the Twickers shows than I had been for some time (without even trying to- when everyone got up I was about 5 from the front) and some of the glares and signs Jon was throwing Richie was certainly interesting.

eddie73 · #16 08-28-2011, 08:59 PM

Lets start some controversy,

Manchester 2011, absolute shocking gig, lifeless, predictable and very boring, the highlight for me was having a cheeseburger and that had a life of its own !

Neurotica80 · #17 08-28-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800

All those shows Seb listed and no Hull? Unless they are just the shows you did that were bad, but Hull was in a league of its own for being bad. Not that I did it, its was the only one on the UK tour I missed (thankfully! Although I considered it). Being amazed following the PBP that it was over before 10pm was the first sign it wasnt all that.
The "one more ****ing time" in Bad Medicine and the lifeless version of Prayer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnOykv5rfLw just two examples. Obviously, there are the other much speculated factors about why it went down that why, but that should not lead to a performance like that, and the fans that waited in the rain didnt deserve that shit.

I think you are a bit harsh on the London shows Seb. Yes they fell below expectations, but the expectations were probably too high. Hyde Park 03 was pretty decent, and the 2 Twickers gigs were ok- a bit annoying that they were late on to the stage on night 1 and didnt really end with a bang on night 2, but I wouldnt call them bad, just not as good as they could/should have been.

I'd totally blocked out prayer, but yep the weather didnt help either. At least when we got pissed on all day at Manc in June, Jon did lift the crowd even though the set was short and below par. The other annoying thing was the only time Jon showed any charm that day, was to plug that bag of shite, Who says, for local radio. From that moment on he wanted to be on a plane home. It was down to greed that Hull even got booked, in April 2006, think it may have been something to do with Wembley not going ahead. Disaster in every sense of the word.

TwinFan · #18 08-28-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie73

Lets start some controversy,

Manchester 2011, absolute shocking gig, lifeless, predictable and very boring, the highlight for me was having a cheeseburger and that had a life of its own !

Ah, but Nickolai thinks it's the best gig ever, and therefore you're wrong!

eddie73 · #19 08-28-2011, 09:28 PM

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Ah, but Nickolai thinks it's the best gig ever, and therefore you're wrong!

oh yeah I forgot about that, I am so obviously wrong. I also forgot he said that if I was on shoulders blocking his view that I would hit the floor before I knew it. Hope I am in front of him at my next gig, that should be fun!

bonjovi90 · #20 08-28-2011, 10:49 PM

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Aloha !

- May 30, 2003: Schalke Arena, Gelsenkirchen, Germany
Jon came on stage, threw a glass of water into a journalists' face and refused to talk at all during the show up until the point where he had to as it was Richie's turn to sing. The whole performance was on auto pilot and Jon sounded dreadful.

- June 28, 2003: Bounce Tour - Hyde Park, London, UK
Hyped up as the last show of the tour, many rare songs would be played, we'll play requests and we all look forward to going there. It turned out to be a very mediocre show that was long, Jon who was on auto pilot, sounded shit and the sound went up and down all night. The location and crowd saved it a bit, but show wise this was very below par. Afterwards many fans raved on how immense it was considering they played for 2 hours and 45 minutes, but a long show doesn't always mean a good show.

- May 25, 2006: Have A Nice Day Tour: Goffertpark, Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Bon Jovi had played in Amsterdam 3 times now yet due a contractual thing between promoters and ticket sellers they were forced to play in a park in Holland. It had been raining all day, cleared up just before show time but Jon could never be arsed. He never, ever got the crowd on their feet due to a terrible setlist and a very nasal performance. Halfway through the show no one bothered anymore and when the songs from This Left Feels Right were performed it turned into a joke.

- May 22, 2008: Lost Highway Tour - Veltins Arena, Gelsenkirchen, Germany
What was supposed to be a huge kick off of the European tour ended up being quite disappointing. The band being jetlagged from their show in Abu Dhabi and Jon who thought that after throwing the fans a bone by playing Always was enough resulted into a show that became very predictable. It wasn't the worst show, but definitely below par.

- June 27 and 28, 2008: Lost Highway Tour - Twickenham Stadium, London, UK
Like usual, the supposedly spectacular ending of the tour. It didn't really happen that way. The first night was auto pilot, yes the setlist looks good on paper but the delivery was poor. Dry County was perfect note for note, but no one cared. Not Jon, not the band but certainly not Jon. After the second show that, like in 2003, was very long, all I could say was "Jon was definitely not there with his thoughts". It started promising, but right after the second or third song Jon wasn't there anymore. Years later it turned out that he was busy organizing the Central Park performance, which was a clear example of how him being the CEO interfers with him being the performer. The afterparty we had in London was brilliant, but I felt I threw away 220E for 2 shows I could've easily lived without. Those 2 shows were proof how surprises in a set do not mean a great show.

- July 9, 2010: The Circle Tour - New Meadowlands Stadium, East Rutherford, New Jersey, USA
Being hyped as "Round number 4!" where there were plans for a round number 5 which didn't happen in the end, this show was easily the most dreadful show I'd ever seen since the show in Holland back in 2006. Richie pretty much messed up every guitar solo, missed his cue in Have A Nice Day, Jon who was flat all throughout the performance and took everything out on Richie and a crowd that was clearly there for Kid Rock. Some claimed it wasn't horrible, but if messing up every guitar solo isn't horrible they either don't hear it or their standards for horrible are a bit different compared to mine. It's the first show where I walked out because of utter boredom.

- July 24, 2010: The Circle Tour - Gilette Stadium, Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Another big stadium show they struggled to sell out (12$ tickets were sold etc.). Jon didn't care about the show, it was bog standard with nothing in there to keep anyone entertained apart from Jon. The crowd didn't give a **** either, I'd bought 2 of the 30 dollar tickets and we both saw an insane amount of people walking around all the time. The second show where I walked out because I was so bored.

- June 12, 2011: 2011 Tour - Olympiastadion, Munich, Germany
A show of which Bon Jovi knew fans were expecting a lot off. A show of which Bon Jovi knows a lot of die hards travel there based upon previous experiences, and a show of which I thought was rather disappointing. I know, Blaze Of Glory, Dry County, Always, These Days in one set, but that didn't matter. Jon couldn't sing any of them properly and none of those were sung with passion apart from These Days. The entire show was one big snoozefest for me. I never felt the crowd were on its feet the entire time either though later reports indicated that the parties were now in the general admission area which made sense, but it was a sad indication of what CEO Jon had now started with the snobs being up front.

Typing this I do realize that some of you might've seen these shows and thought they were great. However, I've seen shows that were great, and once you've seen more than just a few shows you start to notice things that others don't. I recognize the hand gestures Jon does to Richie, or can just see when he's on auto pilot. I've seen shows with a very standard setlist (Edmonton, Saratoga) that were a lot more fun than shows with a killer set. It's still a sad thing that as soon as Jon's vagina starts to bleed the entire world has to know and suffer.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I'm quite surprised you mentioned Munich, but not Dusseldorf! Maybe I see it different as I was in GA area with a big party around me, but nonetheless I think it was still miles better than Dusseldorf. Couldn't hold a candle to Dresden or Mannheim though!

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