Wristbands For Nonmembers

Jovian · #11 05-22-2003, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by choclady

no, you got it all wrong. the figures sambo chris gave were excluding the uk. i don't think there will be special fanclub arrangements for uk, because you have the thing with the gold standing tickets, which doesn't take place in the rest of europe...

You really think the fan club can afford to grant early entrance and wristbands for the rest of Europe and leave the UK fans out of it??

No way in hell! Or that's my opinion anyway. They KNOW they would lose most of their UK members if they did something like that... So I'm absolutely positive that they're putting as much pressure on the Management as they can and negotiating a similar deal for the UK shows as well, despite the Gold tickets.

What they might have to do, though, is to give first priority to fan club members with Gold tickets, especially since they adviced fan club members to get Gold tix. So fan club members with Gold tickets might possibly get their wristbands first and be allowed to enter the venues first, and then, if there are still wristbands left and space left in the pit, fan club members with regular GA tics could get wristbands too.

Donna · #12 05-23-2003, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jovian

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Originally Posted by choclady

no, you got it all wrong. the figures sambo chris gave were excluding the uk. i don't think there will be special fanclub arrangements for uk, because you have the thing with the gold standing tickets, which doesn't take place in the rest of europe...

You really think the fan club can afford to grant early entrance and wristbands for the rest of Europe and leave the UK fans out of it??

No way in hell! Or that's my opinion anyway. They KNOW they would lose most of their UK members if they did something like that... So I'm absolutely positive that they're putting as much pressure on the Management as they can and negotiating a similar deal for the UK shows as well, despite the Gold tickets.

What they might have to do, though, is to give first priority to fan club members with Gold tickets, especially since they adviced fan club members to get Gold tix. So fan club members with Gold tickets might possibly get their wristbands first and be allowed to enter the venues first, and then, if there are still wristbands left and space left in the pit, fan club members with regular GA tics could get wristbands too.

yes i think that makes good sence jovian! and yoiu are quite right too

Jag · #13 05-23-2003, 12:41 PM

im still quite confused

where do we queue for gold tickets, last thing i wanna do is be in the wrong queue and end up at the at back!

letitrock · #14 05-23-2003, 12:44 PM

like i said if that happens i'd be angry

i was going to join the fanclub in time for this tour, but when i found out we had these gold standing tickets i thought, well i needn't do it now

Jovian · #15 05-23-2003, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by letitrock

like i said if that happens i'd be angry

i was going to join the fanclub in time for this tour, but when i found out we had these gold standing tickets i thought, well i needn't do it now

Well, Backstage never as much as hinted that there wouldn't be fan club arrangements this time... In fact, all they've ever said about the European fan club arrangements regarding this tour is that there will be special arrangements again, and that the details will be announced later. One such notice they posted was as follows:

It has been brought to our attention via the message boards, emails and faxes as well as feedback from promoters is Europe, regarding BSWJBJ members who are eager to get their fan club seating information for the upcoming tour. We would like to ease your minds. THERE WILL BE SPECIAL FAN CLUB ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE VENUES!!!! However, this information will not be processed until approx a month before each show! PLEASE STOP CONTACTING THE PROMOTERS AND VENUES!!! They work with us on this and will not work any faster if you bother them!! It looks poorly on the fans, BSWJBJ and the band! If fans remember, for the CRUSH TOUR we worked on the same timeline, fans received information a few weeks before each show. BACKSTAGE WILL HAVE THE ARRANGEMENTS FOR YOU, JUST ENJOY THE HOLIDAY SEASON!!!!!!!

And the latest note for European fans said,

EUROPEAN FAN CLUB INFORMATION COMING SOON!!!
We haven't forgotten about all of our European fans!!! Information will be posted here as soon as everything is confirmed. Sit tight!!!!

About the UK shows, they said last autumn that

If there are any concerns about purchasing VIP/Gold Circle vs. regular GA seats, if you purchase VIP seats, it will get you in the front area if you don't then you may have access to the front area with wristbands depending upon capacity.

To me, this means that fan club members were encouraged to buy Gold Standing/Circle tickets, probably in order to make it easier for the fan club and the management to sort out the special arrangements. The fan club never said that there wouldn't be fan club arrangements in addition to the Gold tics. They just tried to make sure that all fan club members have "pit tickets" to start with, so that it would be easier for them to arrange all the extra stuff (wristbands + early entry).

Of course, we won't know the final truth about the UK fan club arrangements until the fan club releases the info on their News page. But I refuse to believe that they'd leave the UK members/shows without any arrangements, just because of the Gold tickets.

letitrock · #16 05-23-2003, 08:43 PM

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probably in order to make it easier for the fan club and the management to sort out the special arrangements

definitely... to make more money

so how do they know how many to let in depending on capacity?? they wait until all of 4 or 5pm see it's not full and let others in?

what about people (and there will be many) who are going to use these tickets as a way to just get to the front perhaps in time to just see BJ and not the support acts (either through choice, or work)?

Jovian · #17 05-23-2003, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by letitrock

so how do they know how many to let in depending on capacity?? they wait until all of 4 or 5pm see it's not full and let others in?

what about people (and there will be many) who are going to use these tickets as a way to just get to the front perhaps in time to just see BJ and not the support acts (either through choice, or work)?

I certainly don't claim to know how it will go, but I would guess that it could perhaps go something like this.

People with regular GA tickets will queue up at gate X (and whatever other gates they might have designated for them), and people with Gold Standing/Circle tickets will queue up at gate Y (and whatever other gates they might have designated for them).

Fan club members with Gold Standing/Circle tickets will queue up at the wristband distribution place, from where they will be instructed to go to a specific gate Z designated solely for fan club members. Fan club members with regular GA tickets can queue up for wristbands and line up at the fan club gate, but they will only get wristbands and be allowed to enter the venue through the fan club gate IF there will be wristbands left once all the Gold ticket holder fan club members have gotten their wristbands. Presumably then, fan club members will have to show their tickets too, in addition to a valid membership card (and perhaps a photo ID), when they're picking up their wristbands. And if some fan club members only have GA tics, they might be asked to go to the back of the queue and wait until all Gold ticket holder fan club members have gotten their wristbands.

So, once the fan club doors are due, fan club members with Gold tickets will enter the venue first, and those fan club members with GA tics who have managed to get wristbands can enter the venue at the same time as the Gold ticket holder fan club members. Then, when the other doors and gates are opened, normal Gold ticket holder people will get into the pit, and normal GA ticket holder people and those fan club members who don't have wristbands will go to the GA area behind the pit.

It sounds very complicated when you read it, but in reality it's not actually all that complicated. Non-fan club members with Gold tickets or regular GA tickets will queue up at whichever gate they'll be told to queue up, and fan club members will queue up for the wristbands and then line up at the fan club entrance. Fan club members who have managed to get wristbands will enter the venues first, regardless of what kind of tickets they have -- if some fan club members have GA tics and they still manage to get wristbands, good for them.

It should be noted, though, that going by the somewhat vague note Backstage posted last autumn, they might really give priority to fan club members with Gold tickets, so it's not guaranteed that fan club members with regular GA tics will get wristbands. If the wristbands allotted to the fan club will all go to Gold ticket holder fan club members, those with GA tics might not be able to get in through the fan club gate. And that is exactly why Backstage encouraged us to buy Gold tickets -- if there will be so many fan club members with Gold tickets that there will be no wristbands left once all those fan club members have got their wristbands, members with regular GA tics might not be able to get into the pit at all.

Summa summarum, even if and hopefully when fan club members will get their wristbands and that prescious early entry, they're not taking any Gold Circle spots away from the non-fan club member Gold Ticket holders.

letitrock · #18 05-23-2003, 09:37 PM

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Fan club members who have managed to get wristbands will enter the venues first, regardless of what kind of tickets they have

and if this does happen who/where do we all give hell to?

choclady · #19 05-23-2003, 09:37 PM

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It sounds very complicated when you read it, but in reality it's not actually all that complicated. Non-fan club members with Gold tickets or regular GA tickets will queue up at whichever gate they'll be told to queue up, and fan club members will queue up for the wristbands and then line up at the fan club entrance. Fan club members who have managed to get wristbands will enter the venues first, regardless of what kind of tickets they have -- if some fan club members have GA tics and they still manage to get wristbands, good for them

That would be very very unfair!!!

letitrock · #20 05-23-2003, 09:39 PM

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they might really give priority to fan club members with Gold tickets, so it's not guaranteed that fan club members with regular GA tics will get wristbands

If they do. Then that's when i claim it was too packed in there, that I was crushed etc as were many others. Oh wait the organisation is so corrupt that there is noone to complain to.

The fanclub might (and if they do i'm angry) satisfy your desires, but in doing so they will be risking all sorts of health and safety risks, let alone misleading fans into spending £10+ more per ticket.

If that happens, the only word is SCAM

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