[SamboraQueen21]

Originally Posted by Lord of the Jovi Realm

Def Leppard - great live until Joe sings, then very disappointing, his voice just can't take it anymore and as far back as the Hysteria tour he just can't sing the stuff live.

Poison - great energy and concert, but same concert every time, I guess it's a case of giving the fans what they want.

Honestly both of these statements are dead on. I thought Poison was great live but it really truly is the same show everytime (i've seen them three times.) Same with DL and Joe's voice, only saw them once with Bryan Adams a few years back and i had fun but Joe's vocals, not so great.

Still i would go see them again, both bands are alot of fun and the whole crowd sings along anyway. I'm sure you would have a good time.

[BeExcellent]

Originally Posted by danfan

How is DL considered dentist chair music, but Cheap Trick isn't?

Cheap Trick -

Cheap Trick - The Ballad Of TV Violence - Night...

Dentist's Chair Music -

YouTube

[BeExcellent]

Originally Posted by danfan

Right or wrong, Cheap Trick hasn't been as successfull as either band from a sales/touring standpoint.

But artistically...

You're pretty much making my point for me.

[kenobi_on_a_prayer]

Originally Posted by BeExcellent

Cheap Trick -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGvJFEdY4NE

Dentist's Chair Music -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwSGKRbEUOE

Well, by taking random songs out of context, you could make the same point about most bands. I realise Def Leppard and Poison aren't exactly the most creative bands around, but I went to a Def Leppard concert last year and enjoyed it, and if that makes me a ****ing retard then so be it.

As a side note, my dentist had Fall Out Boy and Panic At The Disco playing at my last visit.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by JerseyboyUK

You are talking bullshit, again.
Sometimes i think you come looking for trouble.

Shut the **** up. You're one of the reasons this board is going to hell. You have no respect for anyone elses opinion.

danfan's post was just stating how one act has been more successful than the other (i HATE(!) Leppard but love Cheap Trick, but even i can't argue the FACT that Lep have had more success).
There was nothing there that said, in one form or another, "If someone doesn't like something, it's automatically shit."

You moron. I was agreeing with danfan and disagreeing with you and the other guy who thinks they have a right to say what's shit and what is not. People who call other people idiots because of the music they like are idiots. And that's you, my friend.

Quit looking for problems.

Quit trying to act like you own the place. I do what I please, if you don't like it, **** off. And try to learn to respect opinions while you're at it.

Ice

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by kenobi_on_a_prayer

I went to a Def Leppard concert last year and enjoyed it, and if that makes me a ****ing retard then so be it.

It does not make you a retard, DL were really good. I saw them on the last tour as well and they kicked ass. They didn't even sell out the arena they played in, but still gave hell of a show.

Ice

[BeExcellent]

Originally Posted by Iceman

the other guy who thinks they have a right to say what's shit and what is not.

It's called expressing an opinion. And not a particularly controversial one. And one that can easily be backed up with facts and examples. That I choose to make it drunk on a friday night and use swears while doing so isn't something that a grown up should really be shocked by. The world values formulaic, predictable, unchallenging music over genuine creativitiy. There was a wider point.

And I damn well do have the right.

[BeExcellent]

Originally Posted by kenobi_on_a_prayer

Well, by taking random songs out of context

Well. The context is that those two songs exemplify the qualities that the bands fans admire in them. Def Leppard something to make the day pass by a little more smoothly, without having to think too much about anything. Cheap Trick showing you something new, challenging you and offering excitement. I could give you chapter and verse on songs and context for both bands, but it would bore.

There's a place for Def Leppard - i don't regret the money I've paid to see them, but I'm not going to get anything new from a third show I didn't get from the second.

[BeExcellent]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Quit trying to act like you own the place. I do what I please, if you don't like it, **** off. And try to learn to respect opinions while you're at it.

Ice

This from the man who thinks you shouldn't even be able to call a band shit.

You couldn't make it up.

[UKjovi]

Surely its down to peoples personnal opinions to what they like and dislike. This doesnt mean that band is shit or good. As the saying goes one mans music is another mans noise just learn to respect each others opinions without attacking!