[kety]

i like this song! it`svery powerful

[Supersonic]

Aloha !

Originally Posted by inge

As being a mother of 5, and you being just a 19 year old guy with maybe a lot of frustrations about you mother...I can say..and I defend no matter what: the love of a motheris always there. ...EDIT...
So..don`t make statements when you are not able to judge or feel or know!

When I said your mother can let you down, I didn't mean Marijke's mother, I just ment it in general.

I wasn't talking about your specific situation, you appearantly love your kids very much but don't tell me just because I'm a 19 year old guy I am not able to judge. You don't have to be 35 or something to be able to judge about that. If I'd not be able to judge about it I wouldn't say something like this. I am able to judge about it since I am handling with such a situation right now. And no it's not about myself and my frustrations about my mother, because I know the difference between arguing with your mother and having a mother that lets you down.

You do not know about the situation I am facing right now, but you are talking about all mothers. You are the one who's not able to judge about it, you are not able to judge all mothers and situations. In some situations you are not able to understand, so don't you judge about all mothers. Because you can't.

Yes you love your kids, but there are mothers who don't. It's a fact, it happens. You probably can't imagine it yourself but it happens.

And a mother who lets her child down isn't always giving the child away. It's also possible that a mother could not support her child in very important decisions in his/her life.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

[spunkywho]

Originally Posted by Supersonic

And a mother who lets her child down isn't always giving the child away. It's also possible that a mother could not support her child in very important decisions in his/her life.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I second that.

[inge]

When I said your mother can let you down, I didn't mean Marijke's mother, I just ment it in general

I do know you don`t talk about me,,,what I don`t understand is why you involve marijke into a discussion wher I give my personal opinion

me just because I'm a 19 year old guy I am not able to judge. You don't have to be 35 or something to be able to judge about that. If I'd not be able to judge about it

I do honestly think a man( whatever age he is) is never able to know a mothers feelings cause they are very specifick. So a male caqn`t talk about feelings he doesn`t have and never can have because he never will be a mother. Just biological not possible you know

And a mother who lets her child down isn't always giving the child away. It's also possible that a mother could not support her child in very important decisions in his/her life.

I know sometomes mothers don`t support kids the way kids would want them to do..tell me..my mother never did when I needed her to do so. But that doesn`t mean she didn`t love me. She did in her own way and with some conditions. She wanted me to be a copy of herself..I wasn`t ..that doesn`t make her love me less.

As I said before...even when a mother lets you down, pushes you away..it doesn`t mean she don`t love you.....you can`t look into her hart.

[spunkywho]

Originally Posted by inge

Yes I def think I can judge, cause someone is judging mothers.

Wrong! Not all mothers. Some mothers - mothers you don't know and cannot speak for.

Originally Posted by inge

Never judge without knowing.

So you shouldn't either As for me, I know the mothers I had in mind originally - you don't.

Originally Posted by inge

And I don`t think I have rights just opinions and no judging!

Well, now you just contradicted yourself. Above you say you do judge! I do like the last part better and hope that that is what you really meant.

[spunkywho]

[quote="inge"]

I do honestly think a man( whatever age he is) is never able to know a mothers feelings cause they are very specifick. So a male caqn`t talk about feelings he doesn`t have and never can have because he never will be a mother. Just biological not possible you know

Ok, I leave it at that. I realize this isn't getting anywhere.

[inge]

[quote="spunkywho"]

Originally Posted by inge

Ok, I leave it at that. I realize this isn't getting anywhere.

you think so???

[Mike]

I think u need to take the original statement as hypothetical & the roles mothers r meant & expected (by society) to play.

[inge]

just a quote to make this less serious

Mothers know all about their children, their friends, their appointments, their love their wishes and their dreams. Fathers are just vagely aware of those little humans walking around in the house.

[sarsja]

Yeah Freddie!!!!! I agree - the song rocks!!!!