[rolo_tomachi]

WAN is horrible. THINFS and BB were acceptable. I agree, I'm With You sounds really bad, and it's a pity, because it could have been a good song.

[bonjovi90]

Originally Posted by Rdkopper

I knew someone who post this... so predictable

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He's just spoken the truth.

I was actually waiting for your post saying that it actually isn't that bad and that in ten years from now we'll all look back on it as a decent album.
Then something more about your edits of certain versions, playlists you've created etc.

But your post was really almost unpredictable this time!

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[Rdkopper]

Here is a different type of review!!!

First let's just say that it is the weakest album in the Bon Jovi collection... no doubt about that... However, it doesn't mean it's all bad either... One album just has to be the weakest...

I never listen to albums anymore from start to finish unless they are new... Once the newness wears off, I'm just a straight up shuffle guy...

My collection has every song broken down in order, by year and I even include soundboard covers... Album Songs, Bsides, Soundtracks, Box Set, Basically anything JBJ sang on... Even all those covers Jon did in 2014 with the KOS... So basically I'm literally shuffling through 600 (Jon) Bon Jovi songs of everything...

The 12 or 15 songs from WAN aren't the worst out of the 600... There are weaker songs on the box set, there are weaker songs on other albums...

I think there is a fine line with some songs... example: If Into The Echo didn't make the album and ended up on a box set or a bside, I could see someone questioning, how did this not make an album?

In summary, when you are listing to EVERYTHING in a shuffle mode and a song from WAN comes on, it's not nearly as cringe worthy as one might think... and most of the songs are enjoyable....

And for me it's that simple... Weak Album, but Don't Mind Having The Songs As Part Of My Collection...

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[bonjovi90]

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi

WAN is horrible. THINFS and BB were acceptable. I agree, I'm With You sounds really bad, and it's a pity, because it could have been a good song.

I just feel that no one involved had actually any artistic drive for making that album and it reflects. That's something I can't say about any other release in their catalogue.

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[Rdkopper]

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

He's just spoken the truth.

I was actually waiting for your post saying that it actually isn't that bad and that in ten years from now we'll all look back on it as a decent album.
Then something more about your edits of certain versions, playlists you've created etc.

But your post was really almost unpredictable this time!

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Here you go... See Above... Exactly what you wanted... I even added my playlist...

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[Alphavictim]

There's some songs on here that I really like (in theory), but the performances are anemic and the direction is non-existant - the second half is heavy on slow ballads, the first half tries to be midtempo pop, and it doesn't even have a unifying sense of atmosphere (like Bounce did, since the production was rather particular).

I agree, I'm With You is the best song in terms of melody, and it also has a GREAT solo, but it sounds overproduced as hell. Other than that, I dig Room At The End Of The World, Beautiful World (awful lyrics aside), Pictures Of You and Amen (yes, Amen). What's Left Of Me sounds like a good LH outtake, so that's nice, as is Thick As Thieves (that one could have REALLY benefited from a bit more work; the ideas that are there are great but the execution comes up slightly short). And yeah, that's pretty much half the album. But again, there's just now flow to it all.

Originally Posted by hackster73

so could they have released this..?

Since some of these songs were written after WAN was released, no, they could not have.

[thesedays2014]

Listened to it not long ago and was pleasantly surprised too...

As stated above, let’s start with it being BJ’s worst album (along with THINFS and for me Crush) I actually think it has a lot in common with Crush, it just doesn’t flow as an album (THINFS does for example), but anway...good points:
- Last glimpses of good Richie: Army of one (don’t even find the lyrics that cringy 5 years down the line lol), I’m with you (shame about production)
- Jon songs in the direction he should be going due to his age and voice, although most fans prefer him to write and ‘perform’ shit he can’t even sing: Stand up guy acoustic stuff, Amen,...
- Uplifting positive lyrics: BWC, AOO, LIB
- A decent ballad: TAT

So yep, not all bad 😊

[Rdkopper]

I don't think it was all about Jon trying to make money to buy his football team as most people insinuated...

For a guy worth anywhere between a half and full billion, the 20 million he'd make from the tour meant nothing... Jon was scouting out teams way before WAN anyway...

As we learned with Burning Bridges, Jon's contract was up in 2015 and by the end of the greatest hits tour in 2011, Jon had four years to get out 2 albums and 2 tours...

I think WAN was done in a panic and not necessarily about money... It's almost certain to think that THINFS would have been the album after and BB would have never happened if Jon's record deal was instantly renewed...

In reality THINFS was done and ready to go in 2015... It was just as rushed as WAN... When the record company screwed Jon over, he held the album back and gave them BB... It was after that, Shanks went back and retweaked the production even finer...

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[steel_horse75]

Oddly I don’t mind it but like most jovi albums of last decade, when good, it’s good, when bad, it absolutely dreadful.

Take out the dirge like BWC, Amen, The Fighter, Not Running , army of one, old habits and lose the Sambora song.

Add into the echo to what you have left and it’s ok.

[Becky]

I’ll put it this way, when I read the thread title “What about Now revisited,” my reaction was, “Do I have to?”

Having said that, I will revisit it in the next few weeks and reply later.