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Old 06-03-2014, 07:33 PM
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One other aspect that may give a clue into the possibility that this release may have a hidden track:
If you add all the tracks individual lengths together for disc 1 it comes out to be 68:04. Disc 2 comes out to be 64.51. So maybe we'll get a hidden track on disc 2. Anyways.......it's cool to ponder the thought.
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:40 PM
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One other aspect that may give a clue into the possibility that this release may have a hidden track:
If you add all the tracks individual lengths together for disc 1 it comes out to be 68:04. Disc 2 comes out to be 64.51. So maybe we'll get a hidden track on disc 2. Anyways.......it's cool to ponder the thought.
A CD can take from 74 minutes to 80 minutes long. Have a free slot between 7-12 minutes, there is a possibility of having a hidden track.
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Old 06-03-2014, 07:51 PM
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Hey guys. New member here, although I've been visiting this site for my Jovi fix for over 10 years. Glad to finally join. Wanted to point out that the U.S. iTunes has it available for pre-order and by doing so I have the full Homebound Trian demo now. Verdict? I'm def. satisfied with the improvement on sound quality and just love the rawness of the track as a whole. In my opinion, way better version than the final one used for New Jersey.
By the way. One aspect I found intriguing are the differences in the lengths of most of the tracks compared to the bootlegs that most of us already have. I do not have all of the bootleg demos so you'll have to compare with what you have:

1. Homebound Train
Deluxe version (6:32)
2.Judgement Day
Bootleg (3:57)
Deluxe (4:1
3. Full Moon High
Bootleg (4:14)
Deluxe (4:42)
4. Growing Up the Hard Way
Bootleg (4:44)
Deluxe (5:31)
5. Let's Make it Baby
Bootleg (6:01)
Deluxe (5:56) * I assume this means this is the talk box version.
6. Love Hurts
Bootleg (4:16)
Deluxe (4:49)
7. Backdoor to Heaven
Bootleg (5:13)
Deluxe (5:51)
8. Now and Forever
Bootleg (5:29)
Deluxe (5:34)
9. Wild is the Wind
Bootleg (4:27)
Deluxe (4:55)
10. Stick to Your guns
Deluxe (5:15)
11. House of Fire
Deluxe (5:01)
12. Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore?
Bootleg (4:26)
Deluxe (4:57)
13. Diamond Ring
Deluxe (4:10)

So what does this mean? Hmm..
From this evidence. No indication of any hidden tracks, extended/alternative versions of some of these songs......Who knows? What do you guys think this means? One thing is for sure!!! The sound quality on Homebound Train is given me a taste of something sweet that for years i've been hoping for and at the very least we're getting improved sound quality for these awesome demos and can be properly played side by side with other Jovi songs.
If I recall correctly, the speed and/or pitch on the bootleg demos is off and someone did a version where he tried to fix it (something like "high quality" demos on YouTube). Maybe the lengths there will compare better to the iTunes listing? Just a thought, have no time to check on that now...
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Old 06-03-2014, 08:04 PM
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Maybe the extra lenght are little talks that weren't on the bootleg demos? Hoping I'm wrong, I'd like the songs to flow without silences or talks between them.

By the way, at this moment that song has all the bars of popularity on iTunes, whatever that means.
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Old 06-03-2014, 08:25 PM
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If I recall correctly, the speed and/or pitch on the bootleg demos is off and someone did a version where he tried to fix it (something like "high quality" demos on YouTube). Maybe the lengths there will compare better to the iTunes listing? Just a thought, have no time to check on that now...
Yea, he's a member here. He should go back and check his work to see how he made out.
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Old 06-03-2014, 08:26 PM
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Maybe the extra lenght are little talks that weren't on the bootleg demos? Hoping I'm wrong, I'd like the songs to flow without silences or talks between them.

By the way, at this moment that song has all the bars of popularity on iTunes, whatever that means.
I doubt it. If so, I'd just edit them out.
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:53 AM
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Yea, he's a member here. He should go back and check his work to see how he made out.
yes that's me. What I did in those reworkable versions was to speed up each track and when I did it I got the reach the correct tone. That's because the original leak versions are longer than mine reworkable versions just because the last ones are faster than the first ones.

This kind of thing happens when you transfer a cassete recording to a digital equipament and the cassete player needs to be fixed. So you'll find lots of Bon Jovi bootlegs with this kind of problem.
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Old 06-04-2014, 01:08 AM
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yes that's me. What I did in those reworkable versions was to speed up each track and when I did it I got the reach the correct tone. That's because the original leak versions are longer than mine reworkable versions just because the last ones are faster than the first ones.

This kind of thing happens when you transfer a cassete recording to a digital equipament and the cassete player needs to be fixed. So you'll find lots of Bon Jovi bootlegs with this kind of problem.
That's what I remembered you indicating when you first posted the updated work on these demos. So this would indicate shorter not longer versions of the songs. Several of the deluxe versions are 30+ seconds longer. Hopefully this means more music and not added dialogue.
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Old 06-04-2014, 01:19 AM
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That's what I remembered you indicating when you first posted the updated work on these demos. So this would indicate shorter not longer versions of the songs. Several of the deluxe versions are 30+ seconds longer. Hopefully this means more music and not added dialogue.
yes... but let's take 'homebound train' as example. This new release has that hamornica part on the begin of the track and the past leak version doens't.

Maybe this addicional time is about this, I mean, just little pieces of recordings that makes part of the whole live session recording. I hope to listen some conversations and things like that.
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Old 06-04-2014, 01:26 AM
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I wonder if they edit out "i want to **** you " in Lets make it baby .....
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