2020: The New Album

Alphavictim · #**1291** 12-12-2019, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nikos greece

Regarding bed of roses, i randomly watched the unesco 94 concert with jon and rich. there is a small guitaR lick before the last chorus of the song that always works as a charm.. Richie wrote it and always nailed it ;live, in an organic way, not like shredding. phil x, hasnt nailed it once, yet everyone says how easy the guitar work is by Richie. its not only the speed or the complexity, its the timing, the feel, the finesse that a master can provide. Richie truly was the man

I mean... Richie's guitar playing style just WAS the guitar sound of Bon Jovi. It's like Ace Frehley in Kiss - the new guy tries to play like HIM; him playing in his own style just doesn't gel quite as fantastically as it did with Richie.

Listen to Forever All The Way from the RSO album and tell me that guitar work doesn't just SCREAM Bon Jovi. Sure, it's just a couple of chords and licks, but it is all arranged just so beautifully.

Savvi · #**1292** 12-12-2019, 01:03 PM

Of all this, I'm just glad "Unbroken" is not classified as the lead single. Seems to be more like a bonus track more than anything.

Looking forward to hearing "The Story of Love". Hoping it's the real lead single, as Jon has rarely written about family matters.

steel_horse75 · #**1293** 12-12-2019, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Savvi

Of all this, I'm just glad "Unbroken" is not classified as the lead single. Seems to be more like a bonus track more than anything.

Looking forward to hearing "The Story of Love". Hoping it's the real lead single, as Jon has rarely written about family matters.

Ive not listened to Unbroken since the day it was released. Its just a horrible ramble with the same twangy guitar.

Jovi98 · #**1294** 12-12-2019, 02:31 PM

It will be a great album...

JackieBlue · #**1295** 12-12-2019, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic

Aloha !

People shouldn't take this "interview" as serious as people do on here. It's done by Pollstar, a company originally started by Azoff, the same guy who manages Bon Jovi nowadays. The entire interview/article is written as promo piece for the upcoming tour as Pollstar's main job is to "inform" promoters and booking agents and subsequently a part of the fanbase as well. It seems to work very well, a lot of fans on here seem to believe "Jon's got something special on his hands" just because Jon says so while there's no proof of it at all after we've all heard Unbroken and can pretty much tell what the setlist will be next year.

Azoff having started this company and now running Bon Jovi would be the same thing like me starting a magazine, then joining a band, doing 10 shows in half empty bars and then having my magazine write amazing reviews about the shows saying I played the exact bar 10 times. They'd obviously not run an article saying the band is shit, Jon's got no faith, management is rubbish and there's no way to believe the upcoming album will be rubbish. There's no money in that. Azoff and Bon Jovi indirectly benefit from articles like these as positive news means possible new investors and fans will once again get their hopes up. It's well written, but has no real informative value. Much of what's written here comes close to verbal masturbation as the truth is either stretched, run out of context or ignored to find excuses to turn a major event into some succes. Some of it can even be countered by facts that'd highlight how certain things might be a financial succes but eventually meant the demise of the band in one way or the other.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Ding! Ding! Ding!

There were three Pollstar articles released within a span of 12 minutes. One was written by Deborah Speer and two were written by Ray Waddell, the co-writer of the THINFS book. More importantly, he's President of Oak View Group's Media and Conferences Division. Oak View is a holding company, owned by Azoff and Jon's buddy, Tim Leiwike. Like Seb said, as of 2017 they own Pollstar (the agency that compiles and publishes information regarding top tours).

Waddell is responsible for directing media strategy. If you read the three articles together, it looks like the media team sat down with a checklist of every negative thing that's been written about Bon Jovi (and specifically about JBJ), over the last 3+ years, to come up with a way to excuse or explain each one away, or to spin it into something they thought sounded more positive. Everything from Richie saying they needed a break (or fans saying they tour too much and complaining about them still touring the same album they released 3 years ago), to why they didn't place higher in the artist of the decade list. They also managed to set up an explanation for why they may now wait until later in the coming year to tour an album named "2020".

They apparently decided their previous strategy hadn't been as effective as they had hoped it would be, since ppl were still making negative comments. So they revamped it and put it all out there in one media blitz.

bonjovi90 · #**1296** 12-12-2019, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jovi98

It will be a great album...

Yeah and Jon's voice is coming back to him...

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Jovi98 · #**1297** 12-12-2019, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90

Yeah and Jon's voice is coming back to him...

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I bet CaptainJovi is excitated about the new album that will come out....

Captain_jovi · #**1298** 12-12-2019, 05:48 PM

This is pretty much the same as in 2002 when they had their publicist in the crowd during a Q and A session on TV and Jon gave a sheepish "that's nice of you to ask that" answer when it was clearly premeditated and prearranged. Not excusing either but anyone who thinks this is something out of the ordinary for the band/the industry, c'mon.

bonjovi90 · #**1299** 12-12-2019, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

This is pretty much the same as in 2002 when they had their publicist in the crowd during a Q and A session on TV and Jon gave a sheepish "that's nice of you to ask that" answer when it was clearly premeditated and prearranged. Not excusing either but anyone who thinks this is something out of the ordinary for the band/the industry, c'mon.

Exactly, it's like the "everyone that's heard the record so far loved it and said that it was our most anthemic rock album since probably SWW" during the Circle era or the "you guys dug truly deep, there's so much depth and musical diversity on the album" before the release of THINFS.
It's just them doing promo.

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JackieBlue · #**1300** 12-13-2019, 02:45 AM

The only "out of the ordinary" twist I see in this case is that there's not even a semblance of objectivity. When I read a news article from a fairly well-respected trade publication, I expect an unbiased report. But it's hard to be impartial when you work for Jon's manager and one of Jon's long-time friends; and your job includes developing the overall message they want to send, the bulk of the stock phrases Jon will use repeatedly, and the image or attitude (i.e., open and vulnerable, understanding, unconcerned, confident...) he should project in his interviews. Add the fact that the "interview" is published through a media outlet that's owned by the same people who sign the reporter's paycheck, and the end result is more like advertisement and damage control than news.

Granted, Jon's interviews are premeditated and orchestrated. But in most cases, there at least seems to be a buffer between the publicist and the public. The set-ups that give Jon the opportunity to preach his message usually aren't this obvious; and the spin is fed to us in bite-sized chunks, not as an all-you-can-eat-buffet.

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