2020: The New Album

Lots of people on twitter talking about Richie returning as Jbj said he would rather Richie was in the band.

Not happening. Id love him back but WAN broke Richie. (Not as much as THINFS broke me )

Make up your mind Jon, is Bon Jovi a band or not?

This quote sums it up for me:
“This isn’t a band that is dependent on the guitar player like Van Halen or U2 or something, it was about the songs and it was about me”

It's all about JBJ. How self centered has he become? Remember the days where he used to enforce the fact that they were a band in interviews and that all of the band members mattered? Funnily enough, the less he seemed to acknowledge the importance of the band, the worse the music became...hmmm...

By the way Jon those songs that it was "all about"...they weren't written just by you!

He just seems to get more and more arrogant and self absorbed. Way to respect Dave and Tico! And I can't imagine that interview makes Phil feel great about his position in the "band" either.

What a joke. Bon Jovi 2020 - more of the same, but worse!

I think people have read too much into that one statement. It seems like a lot of them think Jon meant he'd prefer to have Richie back in the band over the lineup he has now. That would be a public slap in the face to the new guys. Without hearing it how he said it, one can't be sure; but I sensed a strong unspoken "but" after "So would I." More like he would prefer things to have worked out differently vs the way they did; but it is what it is.

I don't think Richie's broken; but if he is, my guess would be that Jon's ****ing relentless insistence on bringing it all back up every time he gets a chance to air dirty laundry is what did it. JMO.

We should change the name of the triad in " 20/20 complaints "

If fans actually got the feeling that Jon would be as excited about the musical side as he seems to be about presenting himself as the the big CEO of his own brand, I'm sure there'd be less complaints.

You mean kinda like this??

https://youtu.be/sWCAWfBl-NQ

@20:06 - 20:42

>_< jajajaja

"OMG !!! Listen to that footage shot something like 20 years ago, **** it, Jon's been a liar all this time !"

Or he's just got older and with time came all faults you see in many people. Selfishness, self-absorption. And bitterness or course, a trait many here have developed through the years too.

Furthermore who's being hypocritical ? Richie's been prominent in Bon Jovi's success, there's no denying that. But who put the band back on tracks with KTF ? And looking at Richie's way of leading his career, that's lucky Jon's always been the driving force in the band. You can be arrogant and conceited but that doesn't mean you're wrong, it just means you're a prick. And for the masses, it's obvious Bon Jovi have always been about Jon.

For the masses, the Sex Pistols were about Sid Vicious. Their perception has little to do with what actually lents a band substance and longevity. There were tons of pretty boys in rock bands in the 80s. Yes, JBJ has been wise about sound rennovation over the years (you mentioned KTF), but listen to Richie's solo stuff. Don't tell me you can't hear the more adult contemporary and almost soulish leanings on these, which then would be very audible for all to hear on stuff like What Do You Got as well? It's not like Richie's solo stuff is still hair metal.

Jon seems to be more organized, better at getting stuff done. Richie seems a little more experimental, scatterbrained in his creative process - he uses more co-writers. You can tell when he co-wrote something, still. The thing is not whether Richie or Jon can get more stuff done on their own. The thing is - what made the sound of Bon Jovi, the band? And that was both. And Jon used to know this. He still knows it, IMO, hence him talking about it all the time and reassuring the fanbase and himself that he's doing fine without him.

Also, speaking of "who put the band back on tracks with KTF" - who got the band off its rails with WAN?

WAN put a 30 year band off the rails. KTF put a heavy rock band out of trend back in the game, that seems like two totally différent situations. Had Bon Jovi stopped after NJ, who would talk about the legacy many people around here keep saying is destroyed by Jon ?

Regarding Richie's solo stuff, I'd rather not talk about it. I still can't get how it took the guy 10 friggin years to put out such a poor album as AOTL. Same goes with RSO as far as I'm concerned. It's obvious than Richie and Jon together are far more than the sum of their talents. That's where the magic is, no doubt about that.
But then again, my point was that it's stupid to compare what a guy in his late 30s said with his words in his late 50s. You seldom get older for the better.

Another subject altogether, THINFS will stay as Bon Jovi's last no1 album on the Billboard charts. From January, they'll take into account YouTube viewing and Spotify, iTunes and stuff like that to chart record sales.
It's the end of no1 records for many bands.