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Old 12-14-2019, 04:53 PM
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Regarding Richie's solo stuff, I'd rather not talk about it. I still can't get how it took the guy 10 friggin years to put out such a poor album as AOTL.
Personally, I rate this over anything Bon Jovi have but out in the last 10-15 years...

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But then again, my point was that it's stupid to compare what a guy in his late 30s said with his words in his late 50s. You seldom get older for the better.
Are you seriously suggesting that everyone becomes an asshole as they get older? or at the very least change their personallity? That's just simply not true....

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Another subject altogether, THINFS will stay as Bon Jovi's last no1 album on the Billboard charts.
And they only managed that because they gave away copies with concert tickets for all US dates (twice).
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Old 12-14-2019, 07:06 PM
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"OMG !!! Listen to that footage shot something like 20 years ago, **** it, Jon's been a liar all this time !"

Or he's just got older and with time came all faults you see in many people. Selfishness, self-absorption. And bitterness or course, a trait many here have developed through the years too.

Furthermore who's being hypocritical ? Richie's been prominent in Bon Jovi's success, there's no denying that. But who put the band back on tracks with KTF ? And looking at Richie's way of leading his career, that's lucky Jon's always been the driving force in the band. You can be arrogant and conceited but that doesn't mean you're wrong, it just means you're a prick. And for the masses, it's obvious Bon Jovi have always been about Jon.
First, yes I went back about 15 years for that quote. Because it was in response to Thinny's "Remenber the days when..."

Second, selfishness and self-absorption are traits typically associated with children more than mature adults; and very young children at that.

Third, you question my use of 15-year-old footage, but then go back at least 10 years prior to that to use KTF as an example? That's consistent. (And fyi, Jon didn't put them back on track all by himself, all those years ago.)

Fourth, yes, Jon has been the driving force; but I'm not sure that's always a good thing since he's already admitted that he was the one responsible for nearly driving the band into the ground with NJ. It will probably take another 20 years before he can admit to almost finishing that job with WAN.

Fifth, being the driving force doesn't mean he has been the sole creative force. That wasn't just Jon; or even just Jon and Richie. That was the entire band, as well as a host of outside forces. As for the masses, you may be right. Most of them did equate Bon Jovi with Jon Bon Jovi. That doesn't mean they were right. (But if they hang in long enough maybe their day will come; because it sure seems like Jon's trying to move it more and more in that direction.)

Sixth, I can agree with you that, right or wrong, Jon came across like a prick in these articles. A selfish, self-absorbed, self-aggrandizing - not to mention ungrateful - prick. But it sounds like you're okay with that; and nobody's saying you shouldn't be, so rock on!

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Old 12-14-2019, 07:26 PM
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When Jon made those two attempts to release solo albums like Jon Bon Jovi (Blaze of Glory and Destination Anywhere), he made it clear that when it comes to BON JOVI, it's about THE BAND, not just about the songs and he. That's why these statements are so annoying.
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Old 12-14-2019, 08:10 PM
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we've all heard Unbroken and can pretty much tell what the setlist will be next year.
Interesting.

Now I'm wondering who could predict the new tour setlist more precisely, song order and all. Seems like a fun, albeit depressing, game.

What is YOUR prediction for the setlist then?
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Old 12-15-2019, 01:38 AM
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I just hope some rock songs. In the name of “God of Mercy. God of Light.”
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Old 12-15-2019, 07:23 AM
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WAN put a 30 year band off the rails. KTF put a heavy rock band out of trend back in the game, that seems like two totally différent situations. Had Bon Jovi stopped after NJ, who would talk about the legacy many people around here keep saying is destroyed by Jon ?
The time with WAN wasn't the first time though. Giving Jon credit for the succes of Keep The Faith is a bit of a stretch and doesn't make much sense considering Jon was the guy who ran the band into the ground on the New Jersey tour in the first place. Sure, afterwards Doc McGhee was blamed by the entire band but it was Jon who kept approving the extra shows and the grueling tour schedule. This has been a constant factor in most of their subsequent world tours. The schedules either did damage to the band, to his voice or to their popularity, and it's always been because of the same thing; money.

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Old 12-19-2019, 07:18 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ4n...ature=youtu.be
1 Why this thread is still named 20/20, por enésima vez!!!??? >_< jajajaja
2 Anyway, I think the positive thing is that we'll have a long song "kind of epic Dry County"
3 The new album will be out in spring.
4 JBJ, you can relax/sleep with me ANYTIME -_- (I'm kidding!)
5 Larry, wake up!!!
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4 JBJ, you can relax/sleep with me ANYTIME -_-
I have corrected your typing error....

4 Jovi98, you can relax/sleep with me ANYTIME -_-
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Old 12-19-2019, 10:41 PM
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I have corrected your typing error....

4 Jovi98, you can relax/sleep with me ANYTIME -_-
Listen, idiot! The fact I'm one of the few women in this crazy forum doesn't mean I'm a whore!
PS I'm starting to think that nobody posts here anymore because the title is still 20/20 -_- lol
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Old 12-19-2019, 11:34 PM
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Listen, idiot! The fact I'm one of the few women in this crazy forum doesn't mean I'm a whore!
PS I'm starting to think that nobody posts here anymore because the title is still 20/20 -_- lol

I didn't mean you were a whore ahahahah
And... when the new album will come out here will be full of people, don't worry Yovana.... ❤️

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