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We think they've done the video so if that is the case then it can't be far off. I doubt it's that it was rejected by the record company. The album is done
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We think they've done the video so if that is the case then it can't be far off. I doubt it's that it was rejected by the record company. The album is done
It's not out of the realm of possibility. Quite of the few albums have had that happened (whether it was record company or not, tracks were added and taken off). We don't know that it's not done, it's been done a few times.
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It's not out of the realm of possibility. Quite of the few albums have had that happened (whether it was record company or not, tracks were added and taken off). We don't know that it's not done, it's been done a few times.
Exactly. There are numerous possibilites:
1. They have some sort of deal in position as the one with Tidal back in 2016 and production for the videos simply have started. Maybe we're getting videos for all songs again. When the Tidal deal launched 4 years ago, the first videos came floating in rather rapidly, meaning they probably had been produced a few weeks prior without us knowing it.

2. The album was nodded off, but the single rejected (like with Crush 20 years ago). That'd only go with number 1 since they wouldn't start a video shoot for a yet-to-be-decided single.

3. The album simply got rejected and some songs have to be replaced.

4. The record company has asked for a collaboration with an outsider to get a single out of it (similar to 3).

5. Jon has pulled it by himself for some reasons to rework some of it. Though I'm not sure he had actually ever really delayed an album on his own terms since These Days.
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Exactly. There are numerous possibilites:

1. They have some sort of deal in position as the one with Tidal back in 2016 and production for the videos simply have started. Maybe we're getting videos for all songs again. When the Tidal deal launched 4 years ago, the first videos came floating in rather rapidly, meaning they probably had been produced a few weeks prior without us knowing it.



2. The album was nodded off, but the single rejected (like with Crush 20 years ago). That'd only go with number 1 since they wouldn't start a video shoot for a yet-to-be-decided single.



3. The album simply got rejected and some songs have to be replaced.



4. The record company has asked for a collaboration with an outsider to get a single out of it (similar to 3).



5. Jon has pulled it by himself for some reasons to rework some of it. Though I'm not sure he had actually ever really delayed an album on his own terms since These Days.


Or everything is fine and it’s coming out soon.


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That's possible, but boring since we'd have nothing to specialist speculate then.
I mean, people have bought tickets and weren't they supposed to be paired with an album?


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That's possible, but boring since we'd have nothing to specialist speculate then.
I mean, people have bought tickets and weren't they supposed to be paired with an album?


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Yeah that doesn't have much to do with it. What's a little more alarming is....the tour was announced fairly close to the area of the time the first single was suppose to drop. Jon alluded to seeing how the song does first before planning the tour (which I think was some baloney) but in my opinion the single was supposed to come out when the tour was announced and plans changed. It's a no brainer move to put the song out to get excitement and show a new album is coming, that feels more like the band's M.O. to do a tour with zero album details. Just my two cents.
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Can anyone remember when the THINFS tour was announced in relation to the first single coming out?
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Can anyone remember when the THINFS tour was announced in relation to the first single coming out?
The single, THINFS, was released on August 12th, 2016.

The tour got announced on October 5th, 2016. On the day of the announcement, Bon Jovi played THINFS and Knockout on the Ellen show and Jon told the audience about the upcoming tour right there.

The album's official release was November 4th, but it had been preceded by the Tidal Live Webstream on October 20th where all tracks were played and some even earlier promo shows of the full album with the first having been on October 1st.
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My theory:
The aim is to promote the tour, because that is where the money comes in.
And with the tour announced, every single, video and album release is indirectly promoting the tour.
Also people don't have to wait for the tour to be announced and can instantly buy tickets.

My guess: 1st single: February/March – album: April/May (Although for an album titled 2020 May seems to me already a bit late.)
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