2020: The New Album

The coronavirus song usually gets a positive look from the artist, and Jon has already said that the song is finished and will be included as a bonus track. So...

Well, they haven't canceled the shows, have they? I could now buy a ticket to any show. That translates to a sold copy. So something tells me that they have enough phisical copies pressed in the US.

Many artists keep June and July Tour dates, such as Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam (Pearl Jam only Postponed April shows). So that's the theory... wait until May, there are no great artists, so Bon Jovi will have little competition, get the album to be on the top 5 of the billboard, and a week later announce delay the shows in the worst case.


Think about it, there is no better itinerary for the new Bon Jovi album. Wait? to what? is an album that talks about politics and social conscience from last year. Waiting for autumn will be even worse, since the musical competition will be more aggressive, and waiting for 2021 will continue to be difficult, especially most of those songs would lose their impact and feel expired.

The best time to release this album is in May, if you do it later, it will be more difficult and worse. Also they can relaunch their new music later including some new songs (to activate ticket sales for a new leg) as they did with the THINFS relaunch, but that plan would be smarter to do next year.

Maybe I'm wrong, but this is just a theory.

It really depends. Was the artwork finalised a few months ago? I've known final artwork to be handed in 4-6 weeks before release. Vinyl runs particualry tend to be late as the pressing plants generally have a backlog, but it's possible that Universal have their own pressing facility. Bear in mind that you have to make sure that all countries have their stock too, all of which are not pressed at the same place as the US release. They may have them pressed. They may not. Def Leppard pushed their april release back to May for instance for that exact reason. You're going to have a lot of releases that have been pushed back and the pressing plants will have a bigger back log because of that. Time will tell...

No one has cancelled June shows yet. They are taking it week by week, but I'm pretty sure July shows will be cancelled unless this corona situation starts to suddently improve. the fact that tickets are still on sale is irrelavnt. It could still be cancelled.

Yes one ticket sale counts as a copy sold. BUT it does not count towards the chart until the physical item is shipped. At least that's how it works in the UK and Europe. US may be different but I wouldn't imagine so. They may have them pressed. They may not. You can't take it for granted that they are (see my previous post)

Yep, but before I have already explained it. If they don't cancel or postpone any June / July shows until after the album's release, they win. Later you can delay the calendar, but not before, that's a strategy.

The big supermarkets are open, in them you can also find music by great artists, you can also buy the physical copy through amazon and other online sites, so ... if they promote in April, they could do well.

I just can't imagine a better scenario if they delay it, unless we are talking about delaying (or advancing) the album for several weeks so as not to coincide with major artists. Alicia Keys, delayed his album (March 20) to May 15, for example.





This makes sense. I remember when Richie recorded the guitar solo of We Werent Born To Follow , he said in early September 2009 in an interview that he asked Jon if there was time to record a solo, and he said yes, and they did. That interview happened in the first days of September, and a week later a making of the video with Richie making the new guitar solo was leaked. The album was released two months later. So I guess the thing is already done.


Also keep in mind the data from the Japanese edition.

https://store.universal-music.co.jp/product/uicl9120/
DVD
Limitless (Music Video)
Beautiful Drug (Music Video)

The moment they shoot the first video and release it, I think things start to move.

Less than a month and a half left. If the content is known, it is already manufactured. probably.

But all this is speculation, since it is fun for me to pose possible scenarios.




Edit: I had a typo about new Alicia Keys album, but it is already corrected.

They send the records by mail anyway... same with the store bundles that are expected to ship around May 15, 2020
Maybe they going to send the records with a charge from the ticket price and still counting for reach the chart

Again, all of this is presuming that they actually have physical copies. This is not a given. they might, they might not.

Yes releases are being pushed back til May and Tour dates are being resheduled for as early as July but realisitally this all all just provisional. No one really knows what state things will be in come May yet. We just have to wait and see....

Also the We Weren't Born to Follow reference. The recording is only part of it, after that it needs to be mixed, mastered, pressed, distributed...
Ps. am I the only one that thinks they always intended to put the solo on there. (It was a bit of a publicity stunt "The fans wanted it so we did it"). They removed the solo for the radio version and had an idea how to spin it....just my opinion of course. Who knows....

I don't think it was like that. I have a fresh memory of those days, there was strong criticism from the fans. Even John Shanks said something like.. don't worry, the album have lots of solos. But it was a Brazilian boy doing a solo that changed the course.


Two weeks later that interview with Richie was published (I think it was Music Radar) saying that he recorded a killer guitar solo, a "Monster", which suspiciously resembles that of this boy.


After 11 years, we still have the same problem, not guitar solo. Richie is gone so we can't blame him this time.

Agreed. It wasn't intended originally. We, by now, all know how much the CEO dreads proper guitar solos on his records. Richie stated that he played a Beatle-esque kind of "solo" on the original one since this was the mood he was in that day. Then he went to Hawaii to get in shape for the promo/tour cycle when Jon called him up and told him that the fans went mad about there not being a solo and that he had to come to the studio to do one. He also added that it was the second take he laid down that got used for the final version and you can actually slightly hear that it was put it afterwards.

If you believe everything they tell you, sure. Not saying you're wrong, but me - I'm skeptical. It's an easy way to get fans excited. Maybe the idea came after, who knows.

Besides, when else have they ever listened to what the fans wanted!? Well, since the Pizza Parlour days anyways.

And I always thought the solo that the fan did was way better than the one that ended up on the record!

Oh believe me - I don't Just as I don't buy things like Jon saying that All Hail The King was about some guy at the Soul Kitchen and he teared up and had to stop the song live because of him. That one was about Richie.

The reason I think it's true is that Bon Jovi have been brutally uncreative when it came to selling the first single for at least two decades. That's why I also don't think rolo's theory of them "wasting" the weak single for Bon Jovi 2020 so that they'd have the strong one for the album's release. It's always been more or less the same scheme with regards to this. And seeing what was to come after, the current single, Shanks' story about Jon wanting to dismiss Phil's solo etc., it was just the watered-down way he's been going ever since.

And I agree with you - the solo from the fan was far cooler!