2020: The New Album

Reminder that the TLFR version of Wanted is as close to today (=2020 - 2003 = 17 years) as it is to the Slippery version (2003 - 1986 = 17 years).

Say what you want about TLFR as an album, but I've always thought it was beautifully produced.

You can hear every instrument, no big wall of sound.

I think had Pat Leonard produced the next studio record, we'd be in a different place right now.

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TLFR was beautifully produced. Lush arrangements, a band in the studio trying out random instruments to create different sounds. Sadly Jon's voice wasn't in the best shape post Bounce tour and they were trying to re-write our memories. But an absolute A for for effort, yeah. To me it was the last great instance of a full album with everyone towards a goal.

Wow! That's crazy. I guess because it crossed through the 80s, 90s, and 00s it seems longer...

I break Bon Jovi into three categories so if moments cross over, they seem longer


80-90's:
Youthful
Power House Vocalist
Calm Cool Dude
No such thing as a bad song
Music had more emotion
Live shows are perfect
I feel like the original guys are the only members
Jon was a rock star

00-13's:
Not Old, but Older
Singing style changed: More chest, less rasp
More stressed and serious
Studio Music is more production and anthem driven
Shows are good but all the same
With added members like Bobby, many more songwriters and producers - the band seemed much more manufactured.
Jon is a business guy

'14-'20's:
Grey Haired - Crossed Over
Like vocals are shot
Less stressed (besides the Richie window) and more philanthropic.
Jon seems completed
Studio music is completely manufactured
Shows are completely staged
A whole new band with a couple existing members.
More Jon, than a band
Jon is keeping busy





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I'd say they did still have some crap songs during this period. Social Disease and King of the Mountain come to mind. Not terrible, but still pretty poor.

That's obviously opinion based because I think both are great but when compared to today, they are extra brilliant.



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Sorry,but for me its not Tico,its a machine.
The break on the toms before the chorus on the studio track was never the same when Tico played it live

I mean, you're free to think what you want but it's a weird stance to take when there's legit studio facts involved. It's entirely plausible he just plays that part differently live or that specific part is sampled toms so that means the whole song is a machine?

"Because We Can' is the opening track of and the first single from What About Now. According to John Shanks, it was written the old-fashioned way. "I think Jon played me a recording of him and Richie singing and Richie playing an acoustic guitar that they had recorded on an iPhone. It was written on an acoustic guitar, but they wanted lots of vocals on the track, and big drums. So a lot of work went into doing the drums for this song, because we wanted them to sound huge. As a result, we used Jon's studio a lot to record this song. We got Tico to play individual hits on the drums, instead of him playing a drum kit, and recorded these sounds and programmed drum parts using them. He then played live drums to these beats that had used his own sounds as samples. In addition, I added samples of a dance kick and a big, attack-y snare, to make them pop out more. Jon also sang his vocals at his studio.”"

""Hugh McDonald and Tico Torres always tracked the bass and drums playing live together, apart from in a couple of instances when we recorded Tico's drums separately."

"When Tico and Hugh play together, it really gives you that Bon Jovi feel, and combined with the air from them having been recorded in Jon's studio, you get the Bon Jovi sound."

I agree. There's no doubt the energy went through the roof back in the day, both live and in the studio, but the 80's and 90's had their bad shows and a couple of poor songs as well. Nothing compared to today, of course.

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Yeah exactly, and it's not exactly surprising. Every band will release a crap song every now and then, and will have an off night, whether that be due to illness or whatever. Def Leppard had Excitable on Hysteria, and that album is still one of the best of the 80s. It's just a shame how much the standard has decreased since 2011. A great show is a surprise, as opposed to the norm.