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Old 08-10-2020, 07:33 AM
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Ah yes, Katy Perry, the contemporary super star of the season. How do you do fellow kids?
We Don't Run was released in the same year Katy Perry hosted the Superbowl. So, well done. You've both proven the point how most Bon Jovi fans are out of touch with modern pop music Šnd have directly shown the same attitude Bon Jovi have towards making music.

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Old 08-10-2020, 09:00 AM
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If Jon was making the music he wants to there wouldn't be any songs like Knockout or Limitless on the albums. People saying he isn't trying to chase a fad are just out of touch with popular pop & rock music. All that reverb and echo in nowadays Bon Jovi is "inspired" by Imagine Dragons. We Don't Run? That's just Katy Perry with guitars.

Bon Jovi used to incorporate the sound of popular rock bands into their own sound and they were pretty good at it too. They did it on These Days, they did it on Crush, Bounce, Have A Nice Day but with every new release songs got weaker and sounded less like Bon Jovi. All to make sure a song would wind up on the radio.

Nowadays it's no different. It's just that popular indie bands have a sound so far removed from what most Bon Jovi fans identify as rock music that Bon Jovi doesn't sound like Bon Jovi anymore either. Their target audience doesn't listen to pop radio. And the bands that do sound like the rock music a lot of Bon Jovi fans wish Bon Jovi would sound like are way too far removed from what Jon does want to make.

I feel it's a real shame because once these new songs are stripped from all the studio trickery and are given some room to breathe there's still some quality stuff out there. It might not've given them a hit but at least someone would still be listening to it.

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I'd completely agree with you (which I don't very often), except for what I've heard of the 2020 album (bar Limitless of course, that's why I'd written "more into the former", not "totally"). Or can you name popular influences for songs like Unbroken and American Reckoning?

Sure, we still have to listen to the rest of the album, but if Limitless was the "more familiar" single for the fans, and Jon's written most of the tracks alone, I'd say this album is something different. Not neccessarily better IMO, but different from the last albums.
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Or can you name popular influences for songs like Unbroken and American Reckoning?
Not really, no. But it also doesn't sound like Bon Jovi either. Both songs have Springsteen written all over it. Listen to Devil's and Dust and then listen to Unbroken. Unbroken is as if Springsteen joined up with Disturbed and tried to do a parody of a Bon Jovi song. Take away Jon's vocals and there's nothing that makes you think it's a Bon Jovi song.

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Not really, no. But it also doesn't sound like Bon Jovi either. Both songs have Springsteen written all over it. Listen to Devil's and Dust and then listen to Unbroken. Unbroken is as if Springsteen joined up with Disturbed and tried to do a parody of a Bon Jovi song. Take away Jon's vocals and there's nothing that makes you think it's a Bon Jovi song.

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Fair point, though it misses the mark a little bit. I never said the songs sounded like (past) Bon Jovi. The point I was trying to make is that they're stuff Jon wants to sound the way it does. And since he's a big Springsteen fan... Same with the Power Station demos and the Southside Johnny influence...
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Not really, no. But it also doesn't sound like Bon Jovi either. Both songs have Springsteen written all over it. Listen to Devil's and Dust and then listen to Unbroken. Unbroken is as if Springsteen joined up with Disturbed and tried to do a parody of a Bon Jovi song. Take away Jon's vocals and there's nothing that makes you think it's a Bon Jovi song.

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😹😹 youíve changed your tune and tactics Seb...totally agree once again. Will remember Springsteen+Disturbed parody for a while, Iím sure👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
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We Don't Run was released in the same year Katy Perry hosted the Superbowl. So, well done. You've both proven the point how most Bon Jovi fans are out of touch with modern pop music Šnd have directly shown the same attitude Bon Jovi have towards making music.
If you say so. Going by that logic, Prince was contemporary not in the 80s but 20 years later. I listen to quite a bit of modern music, but I don't exactly want BJ to incorporate emo rap elements. But that's a genre for people in touch with the modern musical landscape, so, don't bother
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Iím not boycotting the album... Iím just not buying it because 4/10 songs so far are awful.
Iíll wait until a few months later when thereís a huge sale and I can pick up the vinyl copy for about £10.
Iíll listen on Spotify the day of release as I am interested in Beautiful Drug.


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Do you think with the "concert" on Friday that it might be in conjunction with a new single?
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Do you think with the "concert" on Friday that it might be in conjunction with a new single?
I'd say it's way too early. The DWYC video hasn't even dropped yet.
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I'd say it's way too early. The DWYC video hasn't even dropped yet.
Yes fair point! I'd forgotten about that!!
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