2020: The New Album

phoenixy · #**5561** 10-07-2020, 06:45 PM

Beautiful Drug is pretty solid on Spotify with ~500 000 listens, the other songs are at about 100 000 only.

Rdkopper · #**5562** 10-07-2020, 06:46 PM

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You're arguing something that isn't even being argued. Savage Garden aren't the act people are talking about.

21 Savage x Metro Boomin - Runnin (Official Music...

Nearing 6 Million Youtube views and released October 2nd

Limitless was released 7 months ago and is only now cracking 3.5 million.

The band missed their chance to be relevant online and had every opportunity to do so. They'd get close and then back off entirely. The band's relevance in pop culture is the problem, not the literal handful of fans downloading the album a day before release. If it effected numbers, and it probably did, you're looking at the low thousands maybe?

Regardless of the act, my points still hold true.

Again, definitely some truth to that but Jon is doing and getting a heck of a lot promo especially with Do What You Can...Streaming music is universal and this has nothing to do with it "The band missed their chance to be relevant online and had every opportunity to do so"

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Captain_jovi · #**5563** 10-07-2020, 06:49 PM

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Regardless of the act, my points still hold true.

Again, definitely some truth to that but Jon is doing and getting a heck of a lot promo and streaming music is universal. This has nothing to do with it "The band missed their chance to be relevant online and had every opportunity to do so"

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I believe it does mainly because the streaming numbers are low. The Bon Jovi fanbase feels like not the most tech-savvy with the younger generation flat out not knowing much about the band. Creating an online presence in this era is so important in staying relevant. They have so much at their disposal and no videographer on staff. Staying present online leads to more streams, leads to more album sales, leads to more ticket sales. They're a dinosaur that is almost invisible to anyone who isn't in the fan-base and that can be changed with some online strategy.

Rdkopper · #**5564** 10-07-2020, 06:54 PM

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I believe it does mainly because the streaming numbers are low. The Bon Jovi fanbase feels like not the most tech-savvy with the younger generation flat out not knowing much about the band. Creating an online presence in this era is so important in staying relevant. They have so much at their disposal and no videographer on staff. Staying present online leads to more streams, leads to more album sales, leads to more ticket sales. They're a dinosaur that is almost invisible to anyone who isn't in the fan-base and that can be changed with some online strategy.

What about the whole Do What You Can lyric writing thing?

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Captain_jovi · #**5565** 10-07-2020, 07:03 PM

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What about the whole Do What You Can lyric writing thing?

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A genius move! That's what I mean about two steps forward one step back. And even that was just Jon and a camera. The Limitless thing was great too. Apart from a few examples here and there you can really tell when they changed management/teams. The small videos during the European tour were nice too. Ditto Jon short-reviewing the albums. There's stuff that can be done it just requires a team that costs money but keeps you present and keeps long time fans happy and newbies interested.

Hell, what got me into the band was the website's videography section in 2000. I'm not saying they need to aim for a younger audience but the same way I found It's My Life a little too cliche, I found gold in the past albums and boom I was in.

Rdkopper · #**5566** 10-07-2020, 07:08 PM

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A genius move! That's what I mean about two steps forward one step back. And even that was just Jon and a camera. The Limitless thing was great too. Apart from a few examples here and there you can really tell when they changed management/teams. The small videos during the European tour were nice too. Ditto Jon short-reviewing the albums. There's stuff that can be done it just requires a team that costs money but keeps you present and keeps long time fans happy and newbies interested.

Hell, what got me into the band was the website's videography section in 2000. I'm not saying they need to aim for a younger audience but the same way I found It's My Life a little too cliche, I found gold in the past albums and boom I was in.

I'm not convinced that that's the issue.

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ezearis · #**5567** 10-07-2020, 07:49 PM

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Really? You've been away this long? Gee, how time flies...

It's crazy how time flies but yeah, I think that 2018. I think I'll always come back to this forum though, happy to see familiar faces here

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For me, this (and the "russian hack by trade" line especially) is Jon's description of Trump. But let's not delve into politics here...

Yeah, leaving politics and regarding if you personally think that Trump is indeed a "rusian hack by tride", I'm pretty sure that Jon speaks about him in this song. What I meant though was my local (Argentinian) politics.

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I believe it does mainly because the streaming numbers are low. The Bon Jovi fanbase feels like not the most tech-savvy with the younger generation flat out not knowing much about the band. Creating an online presence in this era is so important in staying relevant. They have so much at their disposal and no videographer on staff. Staying present online leads to more streams, leads to more album sales, leads to more ticket sales. They're a dinosaur that is almost invisible to anyone who isn't in the fan-base and that can be changed with some online strategy.

Agree. Jon being on social network now is good for the band, but they should focus more on this. Still, I think that the Pandemic might have hitted their sales. Younger people stream, older buy CDs, and people now can't get out freely and therefore maybe even know there is a new Bon Jovi CD.

I'm still shocked by a Top 20, expected at least a top 10.

rolo_tomachi · #**5568** 10-07-2020, 08:12 PM

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I'm still shocked by a Top 20, expected at least a top 10.

There are still 3 days left, and we do not know if this position includes all global sales of downloads, physical and streaming. We have to wait, I think that entering the top 10 would be something great, considering all this situation with the virus and the changes in the music business.

The statement I assume will be made this weekend, probably Sunday.

TheJerseySyndicate · #**5569** 10-07-2020, 09:03 PM

For me, it has its ups and downs (with downs I mean the first third of the album). The rest makes me remember why BJ is no 1 for me, and always has been. I am surprised, and I love it!

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steel_horse75 · #**5570** 10-07-2020, 10:29 PM

Bon jovi have lost a lot of loyal fans and haven't gained enough (if any) new ones since WAN.

Yes the music biz isn't what it once was but a good album from an artist with a fanbase will still sell.

Jon can sit there and say he never chased trends etc but a huge chunk of that fanbase love the 80s-early 00s Jovi and thats all they want to hear.

They dont go to a gig to hear anything from the last 4 or 5 albums do they.

Jon's released his most relevant album in terms of what its about but the irony is bon jovi just aren't relevant any more. No casual is buying this and a lot of the older fanbase won't either. Its not what they want jovi singing about.

I've seen some odd people on twitter buying 2 or 3 copies as they want 1 signed in gold and one signed in silver etc...without those people this album would be a lot lower.

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