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Old 10-13-2020, 04:44 PM
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Not surprisingly again, you're missing the point and putting words in my mouth. His point is how much easier it is for attractive white males to succeed, NOT that any other races can't be successful. Any ethnicity could do it but you'll have a hell of an easier time as a white guy.
I'm sorry but I think that's a bunch of shit. Especially in Jon's line of work.

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Old 10-13-2020, 04:54 PM
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Aaannnd, just like that, we're discussing politics again...

Not a complaint, just an observation. It's really hard to avoid falling into that trap given the album content and the interviews.
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Old 10-13-2020, 04:58 PM
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I'm sorry but I think that's a bunch of shit. Especially in Jon's line of work.

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Yeah... It's too vague of an opinion. We should be looking at several factors in play before race comes into the conversation. Economic class, family home/life, friends you surround yourself with to name a few. Claiming that it's hell of lot easier for a good looking white male to live the American Dream is nice in spirit yet lethargic in an attempt to be accurate.
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Old 10-13-2020, 05:00 PM
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Aaannnd, just like that, we're discussing politics again...

Not a complaint, just an observation. It's really hard to avoid falling into that trap given the album content and the interviews.
Sorry, I take the blame on this one. Shouldn't have questioned it.
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Old 10-13-2020, 05:02 PM
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Aaannnd, just like that, we're discussing politics again...

Not a complaint, just an observation. It's really hard to avoid falling into that trap given the album content and the interviews.
And I believe that's what Jon wanted... For us to discuss some of these things with an open mind and with respect to others point of view. So it's a positive if we can bridge the gap a bit.
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Sorry, I take the blame on this one. Shouldn't have questioned it.
Blame it on the love of Rock & Roll.


Yeah, I know, that was a cheap one
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Old 10-13-2020, 05:07 PM
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Yeah, I know, that was a cheap one
Cheap can still be quite funny. Well done.
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And I believe that's what Jon wanted... For us to discuss some of these things with an open mind and with respect to others point of view. So it's a positive if we can bridge the gap a bit.
Yeah! I see it the same way. He wants us to discuss about all these subjects. Lower the Flag pretty much sums it up:

"If there's something we can talk about, let's talk about
If there's something we can figure out, let's figure it out"

But in fact this is hard to do
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Old 10-13-2020, 05:33 PM
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Yeah! I see it the same way. He wants us to discuss about all these subjects. Lower the Flag pretty much sums it up:

"If there's something we can talk about, let's talk about
If there's something we can figure out, let's figure it out"

But in fact this is hard to do
It's more a matter of....if people don't want to talk about it that's totally cool so doing it in the new album thread is diiiiiiicey, ya know?

https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/new-b...ussion-t70776/ I just made this. If people want to break down the lyrics, that's the place for it.
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Old 10-13-2020, 05:38 PM
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Yeah! I see it the same way. He wants us to discuss about all these subjects. Lower the Flag pretty much sums it up:

"If there's something we can talk about, let's talk about
If there's something we can figure out, let's figure it out"

But in fact this is hard to do
Indeed it is. I get a good vibe from you that we could pull it off.
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