2020: The New Album

We don't know exactly what's being released so it still stands. Some live broadcasts stuff is where things differ as some of that stuff will be owned by the stations that recorded them and can probably be licenced from them. Like anything recorded by the BBC for instance.

If you read back, the stuff about what the label may and may not own was all speculation, as none of us know what contract JBJ had with the label, I was just referencing how a lot of contracts were done back then. Of course there is also the possibility that when the initial deal closed between Universal and JBJ he organised some sort of deal where any unreleased content was given back to him, or he my have purchased it from them. Or he could licence it from them for this project. There are literally a million ways it can be done, but my initial feeling was that he wouldn't want to do anything that cost him a lot of money...but if he's already paid for the rights...who know....

Richie selling the publishing rights to his songs is largely irrelvant. He didn't sell them to Jon so Jon does not own them and royalities will still have to be paid for any songs that he wrote. I can't remember the actual details of that deal Richie did, but it wasn't a straight forward sell. I beleive he still stands to make money from his songs for many years to come. It was quite a complex deal from what I remember. This deal doesn't involve recordings, just the publishing. Richie never owned any recordings.

No, Richie didn't sell it all. In the article it says that he sold a number of songs, which includes the official Bon Jovi records and the Richie Sambora records. But if now he releases some unreleased songs that are not part of that package of songs that he sold the license to, he would be entitled to obtain royalties.

Anyway, this wouldn't change much. Metallica released a few years ago a demo version of Kill Em All, in which another bass player played, and he said that as of today, he does not receive a check, because by not making a profit, he is receives zero. Although I think that if you are a songwriter, it is governed by other rules.

Still, I think all this about the package and the royalties, as it is not a commercial launch, it should not cause problems for royalties, since its benefits will be very low.


That being said, I think Jon can make a good collection using the Sex Sells songs, and the recordings from the last 5 years.

That depends. If the tracks has already been set up legally with his publisher, they may have been part of the deal. Anything new going forward that wasn't previously registered would be Richie's to claim 100%.

Yes, it's different from a song writing point of view. Song writing royalties must be paid. You can't just use someones song and not pay them for it.

It is a commercial launch because it's part of a product JBJ is selling. He must legally pay song writing royalties to any songs that he uses as part of this project. There is no way around that and Jon is not going to want to risk legal problems.

I think if it was a lot of new unheard material why would he make people pay $200 for it when they could release it to all fans and probably make more from it via cd, vinyl and streaming.

I really think people are getting way too excited.

I don’t want to hear unreleased live versions, demos of songs we have, see photos, see lyric sheets etc. The only thing fans want is unheard songs. But I doubt they will come in these boxes. I maybe wrong of course but can’t see it.

Pretty much everything Matt has been involved with the fan club seems to have had a “Promise more, deliver less” philosophy. The early UK events he set up at the O2 and the Hard Rock Cafe were huge rip-offs where things were promised but weren’t delivered. (I attended both)

Even the early Runaway trips were billed as a chance to meet Jon when in reality you stand next to him for a nano second and for most people you only get a “Hi” and “Thanks” before being ushered along. Most people are aware of this but some fans who don’t realise how these events actually work have been left bewildered by how these events are run expressing disgust to fellow fans privately but still bugging up the events on social media for some god knows reason.

Just for once it would be nice if the new fan club promised less but delivered more. I’m with Steel Horse I think some of you are expecting way too much from these boxes.

This. I can't stress enough how this project had so little to do with releasing unreleased music until very recently. You're paying $200 a month to get a collection of Jon's Favourite Things. THAT'S what this package has always been about. We'll probably get a few cool songs out of it but the profit isn't coming from the songs.

Well, he is from Jersey I'd assume

Metallica were not able to re-release their demo tape because Dave Mustaine (who co-wrote a number of songs on there, especially The Mechanix, which he wrote by himself) was not willing to give Lars Ulrich a credit on a song he did not contribute to. So Metallica actually faced an issue with a re-release due to a songwriter.

i ve been visiting the site very often since the release but didnt post anything.
happy about the record, there are some decent and some great songs in there. listening to the record in my car the past 2 months..havent decided if i like some songs yet though.. blood in the water is great and the bridge on lower the flag is magnificent imho.
overall sounds to me like a strong record, with well crafted songs and te cliches are fewer in comparison to past releases.

i ve never been member in backstage with jbj in the past and i agree that matt oversells some things and in the end there is a sense of ripp off, having said that i decided to take a bet and give myself an early christmas present. its the first time i ve bought sth from the official site. there is an intro by jon in the studio and in the pub, a walk around in the garden and in the pub. nth new and some quick questions answers by the band members.
is the boxes have soem pro shots dvd releases i ll be happy...what sealed the deal for me was in the promo there are some small clips from the one wild night tour and older footage that didnt look familiar, so i guess there will be sth from there.

had to edit the post cause i forgot to mention the main reason i posted...felt proud about the band yesterday.watching clips from all around america, people singing loap and being happy. both jon and richie commented on that and i think its a testament to bjs positive melodies that young people were celebrating singing this song, which is over 30 years old by now..
(if the bj team is reading it would be nice to collect all these clips where loap is sung like taht).

The BIG announcement: GOLD MEMBERS ONLY will have a Q&A with Jon 17/nov.

Yeah, I love Blood in the Water, Beautiful Drug, Lower The Flag, Luv Can, Brothers in Arms .... Is a solid Album.

Desmond Child also posted a video on his twitter
https://twitter.com/i/status/1325233152298782730

TheRealSambora twitter:
A new era just about to begin in the USA! People are rejoicing in the streets. It would be great to compromise, communcate and become less divided. Despite our differences, become one beating heart...Congrats to Joe and Kamala.. not only for this victory, but for their lives...


JBJ twitter:
This is what democracy looks like.
https://twitter.com/jonbonjovi/statu...08017181179905