2020: The New Album

Litneg · #**6281** 12-02-2020, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny

Wait, Halo? Did I miss a title from 2020 sessions that we know about?

Initially they recorded 23 songs for "2020" in those "eleven days session" last year. Then came Unbroken, Lower The Flag, Do What You Can and American Reckoning. So, we actually only know 12 out of 27 tracks from the lastest (that if we disconsider the demos of Beautiful Drug, Blood in The Water and others).

Jon mentioned during the JBJ Exp Q&A there's a song he cowrote with Billy Falcon called "Halo", but they never felt it was good enough to say "it's finished".

Johny · #**6282** 12-02-2020, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper

Shanks wanted to be in Bon Jovi and asked Jon to tour. If Jon said No, then Phil would take over those parts and be the only on stage guitarist but Jon didnt say no so unfortunately for Phil, Shanks will obviously play on the songs he wrote. It's just how it goes...

Wasn't this the other way round? I though Jon asked John to join the live band because he'd already played on the album(s).

Johny · #**6283** 12-02-2020, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Litneg

Initially they recorded 23 songs for "2020" in those "eleven days session" last year. Then came Unbroken, Lower The Flag, Do What You Can and American Reckoning. So, we actually only know 12 out of 27 tracks from the lastest (that if we disconsider the demos of Beautiful Drug, Blood in The Water and others).

Jon mentioned during the JBJ Exp Q&A there's a song he cowrote with Billy Falcon called "Halo", but they never felt it was good enough to say "it's finished".

Thanks a lot! So there is only one title known so far.

Captain_jovi · #**6284** 12-02-2020, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny

Wasn't this the other way round? I though Jon asked John to join the live band because he'd already played on the album(s).

Naw, Jon has told a few stories about Shanks wanting to play with them (and almost did as early as 2005 but it fell apart).

To RD's point I don't think I agree that Shanks only plays on the songs he writes, he barely wrote for 2020 and took the solos for Story of Love, Blood in the Water and Luv Can. I agree with everything else though!

James_86 · #**6285** 12-02-2020, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99

Couldn't agree more. In my opinion, those fans who can't handle any kind of criticism towards their idol or anything said/done honestly without kissing the ass of said person do not deserve to be described as diehards among us. People like J.B. are on the edge of their fandom becoming an obsession, which - especially in these kinds of cases - isn't a good thing at all.

Agreed. I don't class him or his followers as die-hards like you or I or the majority on this board. They're obsessional stalkery type people who think the sun always shines out of Jon's arse and he can't ever do anything wrong.

On a lighter note, Shine is apparently in his top 10 Jovi songs of all time

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James_86 · #**6286** 12-02-2020, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75

He has definitely brainwashed most of the housewife’s that follow him. I think he’s a little odd when all his tweets are about Bon Jovi and he copies all the band in.
At the start I thought he was harmless but he has a real horrible side to him. It’s down to him that Hand90 has taken Videos down for a while.
The moment you say you don’t like a song, think the fan club boxes are a bit expensive etc you get a bitchy tweet back and then he will block you.
I followed him for a bit then unfollowed him when he couldn’t get into a healthy debate. For some reason I keep seeing his arse kissing tweets in my timeline. That’s how I saw him say the boxes were great. I replied you don’t know what’s in them yet so for $200 I find that odd that anyone would pay it.
I got a ton of abuse from him and his cult and then he blocked me which was handy as I was sick of seeing him over my timeline.

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Yeah I heard he was the main reason for it. He's a bellend. I think I may have seen some of the crap you've got from Jerry on Twitter. Am I right in thinking you're one of Jay's mates?

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James_86 · #**6287** 12-02-2020, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny

I understand that the band is sensitive about the exclusive content being shared publicly. They have every right to be, On the other hand, I don't get people like this Jerry guy who feel the need to report YT accounts etc. Moreover this channel which offers so much to the community.

Because he's a kiss arse and he wants to be on the payroll I guess.

Hand90 has worked tirelessly to serve the community only for Jerry to think it might compromise his precious fan club.

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Alphavictim · #**6288** 12-02-2020, 05:21 PM

I think it's down to respecting what the band or rather JBJ did and do (their craft) or obsessing over them as people. If you are obsessed with JBJ as a person, are a fan of him as that, then he can do no wrong, because you are a fanatic when it comes to THE GUY. Not his craft.

I don't think that making a millionaire living from singing about struggling working class goes with the prices BJ the band has been asking for for about 20+ years. I think it's quite a load of shit. Doesn't mean that New Jersey is not the best 80s glam hard rock record ever, doesn't mean that I don't love HAND, doesn't mean that I don't think these guys used to be an absolute stellar live act. Doesn't mean I don't really like Blood in the Water.

But if it's all down to "are you for or against THAT PERSON", then it will mean that. But I could give a rat's ass about that. Obsessing is never a great idea. Remember that weird chick on here with the photoshopped JBJ avatar who freaked out when she found out Dirty Little Secret was about infidelity?

jovifan93 · #**6289** 12-02-2020, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Naw, Jon has told a few stories about Shanks wanting to play with them (and almost did as early as 2005 but it fell apart).

To RD's point I don't think I agree that Shanks only plays on the songs he writes, he barely wrote for 2020 and took the solos for Story of Love, Blood in the Water and Luv Can. I agree with everything else though!

I think it's more that Shanks wrote the solos, hence he's the one who plays them. Remember how Jon's the only credited person on Bed Of Roses or Dry County?

jovifan93 · #**6290** 12-02-2020, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim

I think it's down to respecting what the band or rather JBJ did and do (their craft) or obsessing over them as people. If you are obsessed with JBJ as a person, are a fan of him as that, then he can do no wrong, because you are a fanatic when it comes to THE GUY. Not his craft.

I don't think that making a millionaire living from singing about struggling working class goes with the prices BJ the band has been asking for for about 20+ years. I think it's quite a load of shit. Doesn't mean that New Jersey is not the best 80s glam hard rock record ever, doesn't mean that I don't love HAND, doesn't mean that I don't think these guys used to be an absolute stellar live act. Doesn't mean I don't really like Blood in the Water.

But if it's all down to "are you for or against THAT PERSON", then it will mean that. But I could give a rat's ass about that. Obsessing is never a great idea. Remember that weird chick on here with the photoshopped JBJ avatar who freaked out when she found out Dirty Little Secret was about infidelity?

Oh yeah, I remember her. What was her name? Rose or something? Creepy girl

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