2020: The New Album

I quite like One Wild Night, Misunderstood, Bells of Freedom, Dirty Little Secret, Brokenpromiseland and Learn To Love. Not exactly in the same ballpark as Prayer, Bad Name, Born To Be My Baby and Keep The Faith, but it's not like the stuff he contributed to These Days is among the board's favorites.

Hah, that's a super fair point, guess it all comes down to personal taste. I just would like to temper expectations that if both Desmond and Richie returned to the writing fold it doesn't mean all problems go away unless a conscious effort is there to change the process.

So he prefers Phil Boring...

With regards to Jerry, I'm surprised no-one has asked him about his meltdown on Twitter a few years back. He basically posted a video of himself doing a speech running the band down saying that they no longer offered value for money compared to other groups out there, one of those groups being the Backstreet Boys!!!

At that time he was he was sucking up to the Backstreet Boys in a very similar manner to how he now does to all things Jovi! A few months? later he posted another video saying he was wrong and all was right in the Jovi world again. It was all very strange..

Pardon me, but what the f*ck?

I think it's time to leave the guy alone. We all love this band in different ways.

What's this?! Didn't know that.

I have had A LOT of run ins with Jerry. As a person away from Bon Jovi, he seems like a very nice fella. He has messaged me recently to ask how I'm getting on as I'm self employed and gyms are shut here so to get a message a couple of times was extremely nice and some of my best friend's haven't even done that.

On the other hand, when it comes to Bon Jovi, he is way too defensive for my liking. He reminds me of when I was in school and somebody would say something bad about the band and I'd get defensive.

When we done the podcast, he asked me not to say anything negative about the band. I told him I'll just be honest as always but I don't intentionally plan on bashing the band as I'm the 'host'

I've said for a long time now that I think he is on the pay roll. If Phil X does a Q&A, he replies to a load of his questions. If Matt does a tweet about the runaway tours, Jerry replies and Matt will respond to him. He got told he could be in the Q&A with Jon. Along with the same faces as always. I guessed 5/6 faces would be on it before I even seen any of the videos.

I don't care if he likes Shine as a top 10 song or anything like that as we all have different opinions in that sense but when he's bashing someone I consider a friend for posting a video, I don't agree with it. Dominik has done a lot for all of us over the years and I'm sure Jerry and the rest have watched at least one show from his channel. The way he handled it by tweeting to Matt was not needed and it just proved to me that he has some sort of influence in the Bon Jovi camp.

As I said, he seems a really nice guy and I do sometimes feel sorry for him because I do think he has some sort of underlying issues with his obsession. Taking photos in shops with Bon Jovi CDs, holding his laptop with the On A Night Like This show and 'chatting' to fans, praising the band constantly is just very child like in my eyes and something isn't right. I just don't agree with a lot of what he says/does.

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I can see both sides to this debate.

All Fans Are Welcome (regardless of how they express their fandom).

I think as fans, we should share. It's not like an MP3 copy holds any true value so what's the point of hoarding stuff for yourself... it's kinda pointless...

However when it comes to new releases, I think the novelty should wear off before things are shared publicly. People do spend money on these things so giving them some time to digest things is nice.

On the flip side, HAND90 was not the first one to post the songs. A few others posted them hours before and they were out long enough for anyone paying attention to snag a copy for themselves. All HAND90 did was repost them with some very well appreciated enhancements.

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I guess Rolo is right, we are all fans who like the band in our own different ways. The video that Jerry posted (must be at least 5 years back) was primarily about the cost of everything Jovi related and how it didn’t give value compared to other bands. He spoke from the heart and a lot of what he said has been echoed here for years. Then suddenly a while later he flipped back into everything is “incredible” mode again.

It’s such a shame Doms YouTube channel has been taken down. As someone else said, there was probably better live content on there than anything about to be released from the fanclub. You’d have thought by now at least one live show would have been released?

So many people undermining how talented and diverse of a player Phil X actually is. Sure what comes naturally to him is the Drills stuff but the dude has great feel and would be able to bring a much more musical approach to the songs that goes beyond the echoey 5ths that Shanks is so keen on repeating. Go and listen to his session work to get an idea on what the guy can do! Sure he's no Richie but he's not supposed to be, and he has this annoying habit of not holding the notes long enough live but I really do think more creative input from him and Dave is exactly what the band needs. And I'll never buy that "he doesn't fit" saying. He fits in perfectly to me. And I don't dislike Shanks at all, I like a lot of what he's done.....