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Old 10-17-2019, 04:49 AM
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Yup. Because it's coming from Jon's camp what the song is credited under it's a very strange move to do a 180 from the recent years of "We're a band now more than ever" and credit a song from a band album as a solo song. We've seen plenty of the opposite (songs done by the solo band credited as band songs) though.



That was a really weird fake fact from the early 2000s (? I think?) That got debunked. That's 100 percent Jeff Beck playing guitar on the Crossroads version.



To your last point....part of me wonders if Jon has decided to drop the band angle and just fully go forward with calling it as his own name. His big creative partner isn't technically a band member, his other guitarist is a hired hand, Dave and Tico don't write for the band and might not be as involved as they used to be. He could finally be ready to say "this is me, sometimes we all do it all together sometimes not". Could all just be a cockeyed theory but calling a band album song as "by Jon Bon Jovi" after three years of ramming the idea of a band down our throats isn't making as much sense to me.
No. I really don't think so for touring purposes... People want to see the band Bon Jovi... I know he shares the name so it's an easy transition but once he does that, it takes the casual fan out of it and it becomes a die hard only Jon niche.

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MAybe Beethoven will be mentioned as one of the songwriters even though he was just sitting in the room when Jon wrote it
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MAybe Beethoven will be mentioned as one of the songwriters even though he was just sitting in the room when Jon wrote it
Beethoven has been dead long enough so that he and his relatives probably couldn't sue Jon for this statement - clever move

It definitely has the guitar sound of Top Gun and the melody of Beethoven in there. Maybe that's what Jon meant with clear vision?
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Beethoven has been dead long enough so that he and his relatives probably couldn't sue Jon for this statement - clever move

It definitely has the guitar sound of Top Gun and the melody of Beethoven in there. Maybe that's what Jon meant with clear vision?
"I know what kind of songs I'm gonna plagiarize in the future and how obvious I'm gonna make it."
It's actually quite annoying because the Beethoven's melody is not finished. So if you know it, you want it to continue but it doesn't.
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It's actually quite annoying because the Beethoven's melody is not finished. So if you know it, you want it to continue but it doesn't.
Same thoughts here. However, I find the song rather annoying on itself. The vocal delivery is abysmal.
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Same thoughts here. However, I find the song rather annoying on itself. The vocal delivery is abysmal.
To be fair, he has no vocals so what can be expected?
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To be fair, he has no vocals so what can be expected?
I don't know. Either that Shanks actually might've done some mircales in the studio again and pushed something remotely exciting (there were small moments on THINFS and since so many keep repeating that Jon actually would have improved since 2015, there should've been something) or that they listen to it and maybe say "we should better let it be."
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I don't know. Either that Shanks actually might've done some mircales in the studio again and pushed something remotely exciting (there were small moments on THINFS and since so many keep repeating that Jon actually would have improved since 2015, there should've been something) or that they listen to it and maybe say "we should better let it be."
But Jon's voice has so obviously, and dramatically, disimproved since 2015.

Also, at this time he is incapable of fully accepting just how bad things have become. Remember at one of those recent god awful fan club/runaway shite events he said that his voice is in great shape (and the band nodded in agreement), yet now he also has to let multiple songs be sung by other members of the band because he can't deliver them. This type of doublethink is not uncommon in people who've been through awful events in their lives and I have no doubt that Jon is still grieving the loss of his voice and his band. It's hardly any wonder why he has all of sudden taken an interest in the topic of trauma and PTSD. I think he'll look back on this time much the way he previously did about the Young Guns record: He's writing about his own struggles in an indirect way.
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2018 were Jon's last two studio vocals publicly released.

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