They also went to their first recording studio and it still sounds overproduced. It doen't matter if it is the same people or the same building if everything else has changed. Oh wait, not the same people, still bad.

But Jon and Co also say it is a mature album while I think most would argue against it. It is someone complaining about the world, being stubborn and so on. All fine but don't label it as something which it isn't.